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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 4, 2017 14:27:01 GMT
As mentioned/posted above by Siegmund, the season 6 finale, For Better or For Worse.....the wedding that didn't happen.
What the heck were they (abc studios/Paul Lee and ?) thinking by allowing the most anticipated event of Castles history, one that fans had waited impatiently and excitedly for, for 6 (or at least 4) years, get so derailed???? Season 6 spent an entire season, mapping out all the events (bar the engagement party!!!!), wedding dress (that most fans didn't like), the reception venue, their song (In My Veins), wedding guests,, bridesmaid (Lanie), best man (Alexis), Groomsmen (Espo and Ryan), and also , the not so funny honeymoon destination (one that Rick hadn't been to or on holidays with.....);..............
then the ep to find that Kate was 'already married'.............(in a hurried 'marriage' at 18?), then to get 'husband' to sign divorce papers,....and all the other ridiculous things that happened.........
to the infamous last scene.
Just what the heck were and studios/paul lee thinking. That decision almost cost them the entire show.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 5, 2017 13:08:58 GMT
Season 7 ep 1....Driven.......
and Rick missing for 2 months......
ep 2....Montreal......
Rick going to Montreal to get more info on what happened to him.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 5, 2017 13:20:54 GMT
abc should have bypassed the s6 finale and s7 beginning and just shown s6 Veritas , then s7 Clear and Present Danger and The Time of Our Lives.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 8, 2017 14:11:42 GMT
ep 8 Kill Switch....
Caskett (Rick and Kate) had their honeymoon in the last ep, yet there is barely any decent Caskett scenes, plus they married in the ep 2 eps prior......Very strange.
Also, this ep was sort of similar to sr ep Cops and Robbers -- but with Espo and the Transit cop instead.
Interestingly, by ep 10, Espo and Lanie decided to just be good friends -- and this was after the charade of pretending to be engaged to Lanie's parents.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 9, 2017 14:42:25 GMT
ep 10...Bad Santa....Writers...The Creaseys....
Rick also working with the Mafia......??????
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 16, 2017 12:58:40 GMT
ep 18 At Close Range
Very little decent Caskett scenes.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 19, 2017 12:52:51 GMT
ep 20...Sleeper....Writer....David Amann
This ep is even more out of place because of what ep is about. (The difference between this and the time/ep difference to that of Always and Rise, was that the Johanna Beckett murder was mostly what drove the sow, whereas Rick disappearance was part of the attempt to change direction.)
Rick's dreams don't make sense, plus entire plot was nonsensical, and its as if the ep was written to camouflage/cove up any (possible) repercussions re a certain actor and the ill fated original aborted wedding debacle.
Interesting line Rick to Alexis: "I could never leave the love of my life, and you, for two months, and yet I did"
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 20, 2017 12:35:34 GMT
ep 21 In Plain Sight...Writer Dara Resnik Creasey
Nil Caskett in same place. Way too much Rick and Alexis. Caskett via phone calls,,,,,,
Lanie and Alexis via phone call/s. Kate and boys help via phone calls.
PI and daughter in action..... ala s8.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 22, 2017 13:45:17 GMT
Season 8 ep 2....XX
Kate separates from Rick. The worst decision made. But because of fan revolt, it lasted 8 eps and not the planned 20.
The intro of idiotic storyline, Loksat, the intro of unnecessary characters former spy?/ and tech expert, and PI assistant, hayley, and other tech expert re Loksat, vikram.
Kate separates from Rick to protect him from harm from Loksat drug cartel.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 23, 2017 12:29:55 GMT
ep 5 The Nose
The woman with the ultra sensitive nose. Who infamously referred to Kate as 'Captain Hoochy Mama'. Not a very nice comment.
The whole ep was off-putting.
The show should have ended with s7 finale Hollanders Woods. At least we would have had fond memories and a decent closure.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 23, 2017 12:33:07 GMT
ep 6...Cool Boys.....
Return of rogue cop Slaughter (Adam Baldwin). (This ep also had a Commentary --- yet Fidelis Ad Mortem didn't).
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 25, 2017 13:58:20 GMT
ep 14......The Greatest Detective Society
Rick alexis and Hayley go to LA for the GDS and Rick is asked to join by the boss, Mason Woods. Rick declines.
This ep did its utmost to trash the beloved memories of Caskett in s3 ep 20...LA in To Love and Die in LA.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 27, 2017 4:53:33 GMT
ep 19 Dead Again.....Written by Rob Hanning --- his last. The best Caskett writer (apart from Terri Edda Miller, and in s5, Terrence Paul winters who wrote infamous Murder He Wrote).
Kate learns via vikram that caleb brown is involved somehow in Loksat. Caleb threatens Kate. He also mentions that it takes 7 minutes for the brain to shut down prior to death.....
Caleb 'breaks in'to loft (jiggled lock as he just appears there when they arrive home), and he again threatens Kate - in front of Rick.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 29, 2017 2:04:31 GMT
ep 22 Hell to Pay..........Writers Jim Adler, Adam Frost, Nancy Kiu
The ep title alone is both ironic and karma. They lost their jobs via mr fillion via firing of Stana.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Sept 29, 2017 2:11:04 GMT
ep 22 Crossfire, aka Series Finale Writers alexi hawley and Terence Paul Winters ....director Rob Bowman
Return of GDS boss, Mason Woods, who, apparently, is Loksat. Also the return of Caleb Brown.....who is Loksat 2IC....and shoots Rick in his kitchen, then Kate, but Kate kills him.
Wonder if Rob Bowman was aware of the intent to have Stana fired???
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Oct 20, 2017 13:44:27 GMT
Season 8 ep 3 Phdead; ep 4, What Lies Beneath; ep 5 ...The Nose..... Lanie only in 2 scenes.........so because of the separation, Lanie is not required/needed much for case autopsy info re the cases??? yet hayley was in quite a few scenes.........(I thought she was there to help Rick in the PI capacity......)....
hawley obviously didn't want Kate to talk much to Lanie........but mainly to vikram.....
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Oct 22, 2017 12:07:53 GMT
In eps 7-12, ie The Last Seduction, Mr and Mrs Csstle, Tone Death, Witness for the Prosecution, Dead Red and the Blame Game, lanie only in 1 scene, plus no scenes in the morgue.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Oct 27, 2017 12:24:40 GMT
s8 ep 18 Backstabber -...Written by Robert Bella (a newish writer), and directed by new Jessica Yu) the truth and irony in more than 1 way:
Hayley gets an ep re her already, yet Lanie had to wait 6 seasons for Disciple, and 7 seasons for Bad Santa (in which Lanie got Espo to pretend they were engaged for her parents visit);
Martha demonstrated/showed her 'newest' signature...to Hayley, alexis and Rick in the PI office, but not to Kate...;
and of course alexis is now besties with Hayley, yet has hasn't bonded that much with Kate in 8 seasons. Plus alexis tells Hayley she Hayley now has family. Hayley is around Kates age.
Lanie has 2 scenes...
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Nov 17, 2017 12:48:11 GMT
s8 ep 21 Hell to Pay.....Writers Adam Frost, Nancy Yie, Jim Adler, Director - John Terlesky....(as in 623).
Lanie in only 2 scenes....one at crime scene and the other at the morgue! (with them all in one scene)....., and...the morgue has virtually been virtually non existent during season 8....as has Lanie....
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Nov 17, 2017 14:58:18 GMT
s8 ep 22 series Finale, aka Crossfire
Lanie only in two scenes. At crime scene and at 12th Precinct after Loksat taken down.
So was Tamala always the last cast member to be signed up for the show? Moot point yes, but seeing how she as Lanie Parrish the Medical Examiner, and hardly appeared in many scenes and any eps in season 8, I do wonder if whether she did wonder why she was hardly in many scenes/eps. In fact, s8 was virtually a waste of time for her. Tamala also appeared in the Extra of the puzzle thing. But that was it.
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Post by jnorton45 on Dec 18, 2017 17:18:14 GMT
At some point in season 6 it became part of the process to have Fillion's double stand in for Fillion. You can tell fairly easily because you don't see any of Nathan's face. More so in 7 and a contract clause in 8 which allowed Fillion to severely limit his shooting time with Katic. The irony is that Nathan gives noticeably better performances when he is physically in the presence of Stana than when he is not. He doesn't mail it in, but the lack of intensity on his part when she isn't in the shot is easy to see. The best work he does in all of season 7 are in three sequences with Katic - the camp site in e1, the wine pouring sequence with the morning after and the PI office scene in the Caramba episode. Everything else in s7 is poor by comparison. S8 isn't worth watching.
The conclusion is that the best performances you see are when a good actor is playing off another good actor who is physically present in real time. Actors train this way - reacting in the moment. It's part of their DNA. (Lots of negatives there for CGI and Greenscreen technology. Don't get me started.) The differences between how well Fillion acted in seasons 1 through 5 when he was on screen with Katic vs. how mediocre he was after 5.21 when he began hiding from her are there for all to see.
An aside - The intensity Stana brings to her work was never more apparent than in Absentia. Maybe she is the sort of person that brings that intensity as her everyday way of doing her job. It's wonderful to watch, but it can be tiring to be around them day in and day out.
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Post by latte on Jan 18, 2018 6:21:59 GMT
More of a least favourite writing of Rick Castle moment-well let's be honest there were more than one.... But while all the attention in S8 was about writing a crazy Beckett the lack of spotlight on how Castle yet again kept a secret from Kate and broke a promise.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Jan 18, 2018 12:24:33 GMT
This ^^^ is from Hunt, when Rick went rogue by going to Paris to search for Alexis, and didn't tell Kate, or Martha, he took his passport. That scene ^^ is the scene when he returned to Loft with Alexis. That was of course, Season 5....
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Post by KB1L40 on Feb 1, 2018 16:36:27 GMT
JNorton - I agree with everything you said on December 18th including CGI/Green Screen although I'm not that technical. Also agree about the way in which Stana appears to approach her craft and indeed it could be difficult to work on a daily basis with someone with that mindset. However she does appear able to turn it off once a scene is done. JMO
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Aug 8, 2018 14:16:14 GMT
DETRACT EP....most infamous one being 6.23 finale, for Better or Worse (which it was)...
Aftre 4 years of will-they-wont-they, amid a few eps with sexual tension, including s3 ep 13 Knockdown, and s4 LA ep, we arrive at The ep we'd beeen waiting for, their wedding.
The entire ep was filled with unfunny twists, ala kae had previously been married before and apparently still was....in a brief teenage stunt that was forgotten, and he wws/is a conman,..., plus bikies.
The shows fans stood by and still waited while they thought it may have been Rick 'paying Kate back' for the past rick's birthday mystery. But no, it wasnt.
Then in the eps final moments, the absolute worst happened, there is no wedding, as the car Rick was driving in on way to wedding, was on fire, and he had disappeared. There was no body in the car. Kate was devestated.
So after 6 seasons of eps with Hooks to keep audience/fans glued, the show almosst died because of the non planning that s6 was spent planning.
Then came an attempted Hook ep, but it was also another moreso DETRACT ep, as s7 ep 1, Driven, was continuation of s6 finale, and ep 2, Montreal, continued from that., re Rick being missing and Kate, Martha, Alexis, the boys, and Lanie, learnt that there was no body in the burning car.
ep 2, Montreal, became farcical, as the explanation for Rick's disappearnce continued.
Rick was eventually found in a hospital bed, but the explanation of what happened tried desperately to Hook the fans back/again. Many had now left, but few still stayed.
Rick did apologise when back at loft.
The next serious Hook ep, was ep 3 of s7, Clear and Present Danger.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Aug 9, 2018 14:37:55 GMT
SEASON 7 ---- EP 1; DRIVEN
DETRACT Kate finds Rick's car burning in inferno which leaves her devestated and traumatised, but still D r i v e n to find out what happened.
HOOK; The return of Don Stroud as Vinnie Cardano, ricks Hamptons neighbour, (first seen in s5 ep 4 infamous Murder He Wrote).
DETRACT; Rick seen on video dumping large amount of cash in bin.
FBI thinks Rick ran off from the wedding./stages his own disappearance.
HOOK ; Kate is Driven to find the answers to where Rick is and what happened.
DETRACT/HOOK Coast Guard find Rick in a dinghy in the Atlantic.
HOOK Kate visits rick in hospital - but he's unconcious.
DETRACT Lanie advises Kate that Rick has Denghi fever..., plus tht he was shot, and the wound healed. Kate and boys find Ricks campsite and his wedding tuxedo...
HOOK Martha advises Kate that rick is now concious and she visits him.
DETRACT Kate informs Rick that he's been missing for 2 months for which he has no knowledge of....
HOOK/DETRACT kate and Rick visit his campsite.
HOOK Loft -...Rick toasts the 'love of my life'.
Bedroom - Kate tells Rick that she would stare at his photo on the murder board, and that she wouldnt let anyone move his chair or she'd shoot them....
rick missed her terribly. They have to find their way home (back to prior to the disappearance).
There are 7 Detract scenes and 7 Hook scenes..... Showrunners main priority was to keep hooking viewers/fans prior to the eventual actual wedding....
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Post by jnorton45 on Aug 9, 2018 15:48:06 GMT
Outside of 2 scenes in Private Eye Caramba! which were done with Fillion and Katic on set at the same time, you can flush seasons 7 and 8.
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Post by opalruby99 on Aug 10, 2018 1:02:29 GMT
At some point in season 6 it became part of the process to have Fillion's double stand in for Fillion. You can tell fairly easily because you don't see any of Nathan's face. More so in 7 and a contract clause in 8 which allowed Fillion to severely limit his shooting time with Katic. The irony is that Nathan gives noticeably better performances when he is physically in the presence of Stana than when he is not. He doesn't mail it in, but the lack of intensity on his part when she isn't in the shot is easy to see. The best work he does in all of season 7 are in three sequences with Katic - the camp site in e1, the wine pouring sequence with the morning after and the PI office scene in the Caramba episode. Everything else in s7 is poor by comparison. S8 isn't worth watching. The conclusion is that the best performances you see are when a good actor is playing off another good actor who is physically present in real time. Actors train this way - reacting in the moment. It's part of their DNA. (Lots of negatives there for CGI and Greenscreen technology. Don't get me started.) The differences between how well Fillion acted in seasons 1 through 5 when he was on screen with Katic vs. how mediocre he was after 5.21 when he began hiding from her are there for all to see. An aside - The intensity Stana brings to her work was never more apparent than in Absentia. Maybe she is the sort of person that brings that intensity as her everyday way of doing her job. It's wonderful to watch, but it can be tiring to be around them day in and day out.
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Post by lurker on Aug 10, 2018 11:59:59 GMT
More of a least favourite writing of Rick Castle moment-well let's be honest there were more than one.... But while all the attention in S8 was about writing a crazy Beckett the lack of spotlight on how Castle yet again kept a secret from Kate and broke a promise. Sorry, for rehashing an old post. This way of writing Rick Castle - everything Rick did that was not cosher was presented as his 'cute roguishness' - was consistent through all the seasons. The viewers were supposed to take it easy on Rick. I for one didn't buy it. Beckett was another thing. Her (wrong)doings were used for drama and propelling the story forward. Last two seasons only made it more obvious because the producers were changing the tone and emphasis of the show. By doing that they lost the believability. But that's me.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Aug 10, 2018 14:43:41 GMT
More of a least favourite writing of Rick Castle moment-well let's be honest there were more than one.... But while all the attention in S8 was about writing a crazy Beckett the lack of spotlight on how Castle yet again kept a secret from Kate and broke a promise. Sorry, for rehashing an old post. This way of writing Rick Castle - everything Rick did that was not cosher was presented as his 'cute roguishness' - was consistent through all the seasons. The viewers were supposed to take it easy on Rick. I for one didn't buy it. Beckett was another thing. Her (wrong)doings were used for drama and propelling the story forward. Last two seasons only made it more obvious because the producers were changing the tone and emphasis of the show. By doing that they lost the believability. But that's me. Were the viewers 'supposed to take it easy on Rick' because he/fillion was supposed to be the star of the show, when there were 2 main characters? Just for info, the above scene/dialogue is from Hunt, after he went rogue to Paris to find/rescue/bring back Alexis from being kidnapped. The above scene/dialogue is virtually the last scene and happened on his return with Alexis. As for believability, Or Unbelieveability...) that happened also with the separation in s8, but also was the reason for it.
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