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Post by veritas on Sept 22, 2017 2:16:10 GMT
Absentia 1x08 “Brave Boy”
Alice and Flynn are abducted by a mysterious person. Nick suspects that Emily was the one who kidnapped his family and desperately tries to find them. A reporter assaults Jack every time she wants to get exclusive information. Emily tries to get answers from Charles, but has to flee when Nick tries to arrest her. How will the couple act when they meet again?
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Post by eeyore on Sept 28, 2017 13:53:40 GMT
Title is Brave Boy
Source AXN Hungary via sandraxf
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Post by eeyore on Oct 8, 2017 9:28:47 GMT
Well, if this fan video is accurate then there is a MAJOR PLOT POINT in this episode. WARNING DO NOT VIEW IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED!
Oooohh. Tantalising. LOL Although we do know from experience of another shows promo clips that things don't always turn out as they seem, except that sometimes they did. LOL
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Post by eeyore on Oct 9, 2017 22:03:03 GMT
I risked watching the link for the first six episodes and had her brother as number one suspect as he seemed to have the only motive for keeping her alive and tormenting her due to his jealousy of her for being the favoured child, and we find out how he spends his leisure time, which together with his medical knowledge would seem to equip him for the task. The serial killer, the Russian mobster, and the corrupt Fed would have surely just wanted her dead, but instead they are all now dead at the hands of some "unknown" assailant. But at the end of Episode 6 Emily reaches out to Jack to help her and notfanatic confirms we discover he is a "good" (despite his leisure activities)guy in episodes 7 & 8, so now I'm stumped if it turns out to be someone we've already met, unless, of course, Emily really did do it all, now that would be a twist wouldn't it? LOL
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Oct 10, 2017 13:20:04 GMT
Many thanks for everyones reviews thus far.
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Post by latte on Nov 2, 2017 10:13:42 GMT
Some pics: Warning SPOILERS!
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Post by latte on Nov 7, 2017 6:51:00 GMT
Just watched this episode. Nick is an jerk. Father and brother are taking names and kicking ass. Nick got his just desserts at the end scene-Emily's father summed him up perfectly.
Just a comment on the mental facility. Please tell me that the USA does not treat people with serious mental health issues like this anymore? I thought I was watching a rerun of 'One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest' there for a moment!
Thought the script writing in this episode had a lot of poor patches. As for the edits to bring it down to the 42 minutes-they were costly and created a very jerky flow to the visuals IMO.
Thought this was actually a disappointing episode as there were some important scenes by Heusinger and he failed to deliver. Too one note for such an emotional role. Plus the father is right he really is a useless FBI Agent!
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Post by terry303 on Nov 7, 2017 23:10:39 GMT
No. The US has better mental health facilities than what this episode betrayed (even government facilities look better than this place). Show was a little less polished than previous episodes. Heusinger is a bad actor. Yes, he deserved what happened to him at the end. Hope EP 9 and 10 are better.
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Post by alwaysafan on Nov 8, 2017 0:35:13 GMT
No. The US has better mental health facilities than what this episode betrayed (even government facilities look better than this place). Show was a little less polished than previous episodes. Heusinger is a bad actor. Yes, he deserved what happened to him at the end. Hope EP 9 and 10 are better. I just watched episode 8 and agree. Not a great episode.
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Post by jnorton45 on Nov 8, 2017 2:18:04 GMT
Don't think Heusinger is necessarily a bad actor, because the part is written as it is and he is following the instructions of the director as to how to play the part. His character is caught in a crazy situation. He's being pulled 4 ways at once - father, cop, husband to 2 women at the same time. A complicated part to play.
I thought parts of 7 and 8 were unevenly told or maybe badly edited. In general I've thought the editing to fit a broadcast format supported by advertising has hurt flow of the story. Hope DVD is a directors cut.
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Post by NYerBornnbred on Nov 8, 2017 3:53:18 GMT
I don't really agree that Nick is such a bad guy here - he's been put in a completely impossible situation, and considering that he actually found the fugitive (Emily) I don't think the FBI would consider him so useless, either. As far as I can tell, he deserved to get shot at the end because he was stupid enough to just stand there and let Emily shoot him, not because he's acted so terribly.
On the other hand, I do agree that Heusinger is absolutely terrible in the role.
For me the story has jumped from unrelenting misery to being completely preposterous, which might or might not be an improvement.
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Post by latte on Nov 8, 2017 8:39:38 GMT
I don't really agree that Nick is such a bad guy here - he's been put in a completely impossible situation, and considering that he actually found the fugitive (Emily) I don't think the FBI would consider him so useless, either. As far as I can tell, he deserved to get shot at the end because he was stupid enough to just stand there and let Emily shoot him, not because he's acted so terribly. On the other hand, I do agree that Heusinger is absolutely terrible in the role. For me the story has jumped from unrelenting misery to being completely preposterous, which might or might not be an improvement. Maybe I missed something but from my memory of the episode the only reason Nick located Emily and the Charles guy was because of the good detective work by the female FBI Agent who was part of the team going over the files. She found the name of Charles in the files and then that was relayed back to Nick. Adding, what motivation would Emily have for kidnapping her own son and his step mother? Nick has been too quick to believe that Emily is the bad guy-glad he moved on so quickly after her disappearance as he clearly never truly loved her IMO. But at least we were introduced to the kidnapper and maybe the murderer in this episode. So many plot holes to try and ignore.
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Post by latte on Nov 8, 2017 8:46:51 GMT
No. The US has better mental health facilities than what this episode betrayed (even government facilities look better than this place). Show was a little less polished than previous episodes. Heusinger is a bad actor. Yes, he deserved what happened to him at the end. Hope EP 9 and 10 are better. Phew! I actually was confident that was the case but it was a really poor plot/writing example here. Plus, I really object to this horrible stereotype of mental health in this way-so demeaning to a genuine health issue. Thankfully, society has largely come a long way from this kind of imagery but when you consider this is being shown everywhere but the US then one wonders what those audiences think of the American health system? This episode just screamed 'not made in the USA' to me. It was all kinds of the wrong cultural tone somehow and those scenes in the mental health facility were just horrendous. Heusinger is truly a poor actor. He is playing a character that has been pulled from pillar to post emotionally but all we get is the one facial expression. Even his voice doesn't alter for the scene. He plays angry and emotional upset without any difference. If the rumours are true that the Director was wavering on hiring him then he should have gone with his first instinct. If there is a season two it can't include him as he drags the show down. But I can't see this getting a season two on what I've seen so far and I'm a Stana fan but this project lacks polish in the details.
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Post by notfanatic on Nov 8, 2017 11:01:08 GMT
Season two is quit possible, it depends of a financial success of the show but not of something else. Absentia reportedly costs $3.5M for all 10 episodes so it very likely will be financially successful. Heusinger can be in the show ... if the Emily's story will evolve in the way as it was shown at the end of the season 1.
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Post by NYerBornnbred on Nov 8, 2017 15:52:43 GMT
I don't really agree that Nick is such a bad guy here - he's been put in a completely impossible situation, and considering that he actually found the fugitive (Emily) I don't think the FBI would consider him so useless, either. As far as I can tell, he deserved to get shot at the end because he was stupid enough to just stand there and let Emily shoot him, not because he's acted so terribly. On the other hand, I do agree that Heusinger is absolutely terrible in the role. For me the story has jumped from unrelenting misery to being completely preposterous, which might or might not be an improvement. Maybe I missed something but from my memory of the episode the only reason Nick located Emily and the Charles guy was because of the good detective work by the female FBI Agent who was part of the team going over the files. She found the name of Charles in the files and then that was relayed back to Nick. Adding, what motivation would Emily have for kidnapping her own son and his step mother? Nick has been too quick to believe that Emily is the bad guy-glad he moved on so quickly after her disappearance as he clearly never truly loved her IMO. But at least we were introduced to the kidnapper and maybe the murderer in this episode. So many plot holes to try and ignore. He was the one who put together the link between Emily and the orphanage, and all the other agent did was do various searches. In other words, they both did police work, and I can’t see anything that makes what he’s doing any different from what anyone else on the law enforcement side is doing. As to not believing Emily could kidnap her own son, I don’t agree at all that it’s so hard to believe - plenty of perfectly normal parents do that, and if nothing else there is no question that Emily is (understandably) quite unstable. He could believe that she thinks this is the only way she will ever be in Flynn’s life, which is actually a very reasonable belief. We also don’t know that he moved on so quickly - all we have is an angry comment from her very biased father, who obviously dislikes him intensely. I guess what it comes down to for me is that the story has been told poorly in many ways, making lots of people’s actions difficult to explain. And besides plot holes, how about various red herrings that have been dropped in and then dropped out without a second thought? It’s actually very Castle-season 7-like. I made clear from the start that this isn’t my kind of show, and it isn’t, so I make no claim of being completely unbiased about it. I just think that it isn’t very good - they’ve sacrificed story continuity for mood from the first scene, and I just don’t think it hangs together very well.
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Post by latte on Nov 9, 2017 22:57:50 GMT
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Post by crosscastle on Nov 10, 2017 16:36:13 GMT
Have not seen episode,but if you are interested ,there is a movie documentary of Mental Asylum called Titticut
filmed in US,? Connecticut around 1940s or early 50s.Truly horrifying.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 12:40:37 GMT
I'm soo glad Jack is not one of the bad guys, so glad Emily has him and their dad on her side. How could Nick believe that Emily abducted their son? Honestly, he's not a good husband and doesn't seem to know her at all.
Does anyone think it might not have been Emily who shot Nick? Did we see well enough if it was her or not? I don't know who else could have done it, but I don't want to believe it was her, because when she proves that she's innocent, she would still be in trouble for shooting Nick. Plus, I don't think she would shoot him?
Regarding the mental health facility: I feel like it's often portrayed like this in shows and movies, because it wasn't too long ago that mental health facilities actually looked like that. The majority of people still either don't believe mental illness is real when it's not bad enough or believe the person is just a nut job when the illness is severe.
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Post by notfanatic on Nov 11, 2017 21:50:35 GMT
It's her shot, but not everything so bad as it seems.
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Post by latte on Nov 11, 2017 22:22:09 GMT
It's her shot, but not everything so bad as it seems. Oooh. So come on spill the beans and put us (me) out of my misery! Did someone else shoot Nick?
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Post by latte on Nov 11, 2017 22:23:37 GMT
Have not seen episode,but if you are interested ,there is a movie documentary of Mental Asylum called Titticut filmed in US,? Connecticut around 1940s or early 50s.Truly horrifying. Thanks, but I'll pass on that one!
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Post by notfanatic on Nov 12, 2017 7:43:46 GMT
It's her shot, but not everything so bad as it seems. Oooh. So come on spill the beans and put us (me) out of my misery! Did someone else shoot Nick? No, Emily shoot Nick, it happened exactly how that is seen on screen. But explanation of that is in next episode and I don't know is it acceptable to describe it here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 8:56:46 GMT
Oooh. So come on spill the beans and put us (me) out of my misery! Did someone else shoot Nick? No, Emily shoot Nick, it happened exactly how that is seen on screen. But explanation of that is in next episode and I don't know is it acceptable to describe it here. Don't write it here or put it in spoiler tags if someone wants to know.
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Post by latte on Nov 12, 2017 21:11:21 GMT
No, Emily shoot Nick, it happened exactly how that is seen on screen. But explanation of that is in next episode and I don't know is it acceptable to describe it here. Don't write it here or put it in spoiler tags if someone wants to know.
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Post by notfanatic on Nov 12, 2017 21:51:46 GMT
Don't write it here or put it in spoiler tags if someone wants to know. {Spoiler} Emily knows FBI agents must wear a bulletproof vest when they are working "in a field", so to stop Nick from arresting of her she shoots in the vest, so she can continues to search her son and Alice instead of waste a time to prove she didn't kidnap them.
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Post by latte on Nov 13, 2017 4:53:47 GMT
{Spoiler} Emily knows FBI agents must wear a bulletproof vest when they are working "in a field", so to stop Nick from arresting of her she shoots in the jacket, so she can continues to search her son and Alice instead of waste a time to prove she didn't kidnap them.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Feb 11, 2018 14:16:20 GMT
what a shocker - and another twist; --- Flynn taken!!! whoever is framing Emily is seriously twisted. Alice there too!!...and now we see the cavernous place. What a nightmare!! Disjointed editing as first scene Nick is calling Alice, but she's not answering phone, he gets inside and sees the house trashed. Then Alice appears and hits him and saying 'Now do you believe its Emily???"
Next scene, Nick goes outside for press conference to say his wife and son are missing. And blames Emily. Emily watches the press conference on her mobile and is visibly shaken and upset that Flynn is missing.
Jack bailed -- by the female reporter. Why and what does she want?? Absentia has now hit the next level of terror and creepiness.
The skull/ribs/skeleton that Emily dug up was the evil psycho doctor, who did the experiments, torture/abuse many year s earlier. We learn that the victims were called A and B, and that A was a boy called Charles. B is yet unknown.
Mr Byrne meets an old friend who worked at Family Services. He has found info that Charles now at a mental facility.
Flynn taken out of room with Alice and taken somewhere else by person in white, and a white mask. Alice frantically tries to get bolt from a boarded door.
Mr Byrne tells Nick off for walking away from looking for Emily after only one year and she was missing for 6., and that Emily is a better agent that he ever was and ran/runs rings around him., and that he is a moron.
On the audio tapes that Emily listens to, Dr Chen tells young Charles he is a brave boy. Dr Shen wants to punish Charles, or him to choose himself or subject B. Charles torture can be heard, and it is horrific.
In the cavern, a masked person wants to hurt Flynn or Alice, he must choose. Flynn says him. So he is put in the water tank, and water poured in around him.
Nick and Tommy see Home Home Records man, who says the trials or experiments were swept under the carpet to avoid a scandal. Dr shen also did secret government research...
Flynn back with Alice. Emily in snowy woods, and finds the institution where Charles now is. she finds him and also his book/diary that he drew/wrote in as child. Emily freaks Charles out who remembers her name. She talks to him (or tries to), and she runs out, after taking his book., and Nick is after her. They both point guns at each other, and Emily shoots him, but he is wearing a vest.
As the eps evolve they are also evolving in their level of intenseness and creepiness, and especially in that Flynn has now been taken, and is in that cavern, and has experienced the water tank. This episode is the 2nd most creepiest ep yet. Im still only watching for Stana. Im not into thrillers.
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Post by latte on Feb 12, 2018 6:12:03 GMT
what a shocker - and another twist; --- Flynn taken!!! whoever is framing Emily is seriously twisted. Alice there too!!...and now we see the cavernous place. What a nightmare!! Disjointed editing as first scene Nick is calling Alice, but she's not answering phone, he gets inside and sees the house trashed. Then Alice appears and hits him and saying 'Now do you believe its Emily???" Next scene, Nick goes outside for press conference to say his wife and son are missing. And blames Emily. Emily watches the press conference on her mobile and is visibly shaken and upset that Flynn is missing. Jack bailed -- by the female reporter. Why and what does she want?? Absentia has now hit the next level of terror and creepiness. The skull/ribs/skeleton that Emily dug up was the evil psycho doctor, who did the experiments, torture/abuse many year s earlier. We learn that the victims were called A and B, and that A was a boy called Charles. B is yet unknown. Mr Byrne meets an old friend who worked at Family Services. He has found info that Charles now at a mental facility. Flynn taken out of room with Alice and taken somewhere else by person in white, and a white mask. Alice frantically tries to get bolt from a boarded door. Mr Byrne tells Nick off for walking away from looking for Emily after only one year and she was missing for 6., and that Emily is a better agent that he ever was and ran/runs rings around him., and that he is a moron. On the audio tapes that Emily listens to, Dr Chen tells young Charles he is a brave boy. Dr Shen wants to punish Charles, or him to choose himself or subject B. Charles torture can be heard, and it is horrific. In the cavern, a masked person wants to hurt Flynn or Alice, he must choose. Flynn says him. So he is put in the water tank, and water poured in around him. Nick and Tommy see Home Home Records man, who says the trials or experiments were swept under the carpet to avoid a scandal. Dr shen also did secret government research... Flynn back with Alice. Emily in snowy woods, and finds the institution where Charles now is. she finds him and also his book/diary that he drew/wrote in as child. Emily freaks Charles out who remembers her name. She talks to him (or tries to), and she runs out, after taking his book., and Nick is after her. They both point guns at each other, and Emily shoots him, but he is wearing a vest. As the eps evolve they are also evolving in their level of intenseness and creepiness, and especially in that Flynn has now been taken, and is in that cavern, and has experienced the water tank. This episode is the 2nd most creepiest ep yet. Im still only watching for Stana. Im not into thrillers. Wasn't that Alice's sister who hits him as says "Now do you believe its Emily? Found Nick being the FBI spokesperson and lead investigator of both Emily's disappearance and now hunting her as a murder suspect, not to mention trying to find his son and 'wife', to be a leap too far in the writing. Nick should have been removed from the case/s. They could have had him going rogue and that would have made sense. Why didn't he have a protection detail on his kid? Nick was just all kinds of incompetent and impulsive to me.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Feb 12, 2018 12:23:51 GMT
what a shocker - and another twist; --- Flynn taken!!! whoever is framing Emily is seriously twisted. Alice there too!!...and now we see the cavernous place. What a nightmare!! Disjointed editing as first scene Nick is calling Alice, but she's not answering phone, he gets inside and sees the house trashed. Then Alice appears and hits him and saying 'Now do you believe its Emily???" Next scene, Nick goes outside for press conference to say his wife and son are missing. And blames Emily. Emily watches the press conference on her mobile and is visibly shaken and upset that Flynn is missing. Jack bailed -- by the female reporter. Why and what does she want?? Absentia has now hit the next level of terror and creepiness. The skull/ribs/skeleton that Emily dug up was the evil psycho doctor, who did the experiments, torture/abuse many year s earlier. We learn that the victims were called A and B, and that A was a boy called Charles. B is yet unknown. Mr Byrne meets an old friend who worked at Family Services. He has found info that Charles now at a mental facility. Flynn taken out of room with Alice and taken somewhere else by person in white, and a white mask. Alice frantically tries to get bolt from a boarded door. Mr Byrne tells Nick off for walking away from looking for Emily after only one year and she was missing for 6., and that Emily is a better agent that he ever was and ran/runs rings around him., and that he is a moron. On the audio tapes that Emily listens to, Dr Chen tells young Charles he is a brave boy. Dr Shen wants to punish Charles, or him to choose himself or subject B. Charles torture can be heard, and it is horrific. In the cavern, a masked person wants to hurt Flynn or Alice, he must choose. Flynn says him. So he is put in the water tank, and water poured in around him. Nick and Tommy see Home Home Records man, who says the trials or experiments were swept under the carpet to avoid a scandal. Dr shen also did secret government research... Flynn back with Alice. Emily in snowy woods, and finds the institution where Charles now is. she finds him and also his book/diary that he drew/wrote in as child. Emily freaks Charles out who remembers her name. She talks to him (or tries to), and she runs out, after taking his book., and Nick is after her. They both point guns at each other, and Emily shoots him, but he is wearing a vest. As the eps evolve they are also evolving in their level of intenseness and creepiness, and especially in that Flynn has now been taken, and is in that cavern, and has experienced the water tank. This episode is the 2nd most creepiest ep yet. Im still only watching for Stana. Im not into thrillers. Wasn't that Alice's sister who hits him as says "Now do you believe its Emily? Found Nick being the FBI spokesperson and lead investigator of both Emily's disappearance and now hunting her as a murder suspect, not to mention trying to find his son and 'wife', to be a leap too far in the writing. Nick should have been removed from the case/s. They could have had him going rogue and that would have made sense. Why didn't he have a protection detail on his kid? Nick was just all kinds of incompetent and impulsive to me. I will have to rewatch the eps concerned again. All I saw and took in was a young blonde woman was hitting Nick. I thought it was Alice. The scenes are evolving too fast. I write things down as I see them, which helps me to remember as I rewatch the eps.
Totally agree that Nick shouldn't have held the press conference as he was the father and husband ie personally involved. The 2IC should have done the press thing, while Nick stood either next to him or behind him Also agree that Nick should have been removed from the case., and that there should have been a protection detail on Flynn and Alice. Also agree that Nick was incompetent and impulsive -- plus he should have believed Emily, or at least tried to help her, not automatically believe she was guilty, and let her know he was there for her -- which he totally wasn't.
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Post by latte on Feb 14, 2018 7:26:24 GMT
Wasn't that Alice's sister who hits him as says "Now do you believe its Emily? Found Nick being the FBI spokesperson and lead investigator of both Emily's disappearance and now hunting her as a murder suspect, not to mention trying to find his son and 'wife', to be a leap too far in the writing. Nick should have been removed from the case/s. They could have had him going rogue and that would have made sense. Why didn't he have a protection detail on his kid? Nick was just all kinds of incompetent and impulsive to me. I will have to rewatch the eps concerned again. All I saw and took in was a young blonde woman was hitting Nick. I thought it was Alice. The scenes are evolving too fast. I write things down as I see them, which helps me to remember as I rewatch the eps.
Totally agree that Nick shouldn't have held the press conference as he was the father and husband ie personally involved. The 2IC should have done the press thing, while Nick stood either next to him or behind him Also agree that Nick should have been removed from the case., and that there should have been a protection detail on Flynn and Alice. Also agree that Nick was incompetent and impulsive -- plus he should have believed Emily, or at least tried to help her, not automatically believe she was guilty, and let her know he was there for her -- which he totally wasn't.
Don't forget it was also Alice's sisters place where they were taken from as she had left their family home with Flynn.
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