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Post by veritas on Sept 22, 2017 2:19:38 GMT
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Post by notfanatic on Oct 18, 2017 16:38:55 GMT
It seems the season 2 if it will happens will be a story where Stana and Angel will be a leads. Nick and Alice remain together. Emily is moving on and Tommy proposed her his help if she will need it.
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Post by alwaysafan on Oct 18, 2017 20:16:11 GMT
It seems the season 2 if it will happens will be a story where Stana and Angel will be a leads. Nick and Alice remain together. Emily is moving on and Tommy proposed her his help if she will need it. Don't like Angel very much. Hope it's someone else.
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Post by notfanatic on Oct 18, 2017 23:54:06 GMT
The end of the series made in that way. They hinted on Emily's possible relationships with Tommy. Stana said plan for season 2 already exists so this scenario seems to be most likely one.. .
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Post by kbex on Oct 19, 2017 1:17:28 GMT
The end of the series made in that way. They hinted on Emily's possible relationships with Tommy. Stana said plan for season 2 already exists so this scenario seems to be most likely one.. . I really like the chemistry between Emily and Tommy, and I really don’t care for Nick at all.
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Post by latte on Oct 19, 2017 23:39:57 GMT
From what I've seen of the cast so far, if they are fortunate enough to get a second season then they need to find a new male lead-someone new to the storyline. Patrick tried hard but he never reached the acting heights possible with the character he was given. The Angel guy is Ok but he's way too one dimensional. Probably from the male cast the actor playing Emily's brother, Jack, got the most out of the character and his acting.
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Post by latte on Nov 21, 2017 6:12:37 GMT
Initial thoughts on this episode:
And so we get to the end of Season One. Nice writing twist on the episode title of 'Original Sin'. So, Emily is kidnapped and tortured for six years to revenge her switching the student psych evaluations? The aim of the kidnapping is to program her to be a killer and then the revenge would be to have her convicted of the murder? Why in the hell not just frame Emily for a murder and save themselves all that trouble? Struggling to see the point of the whole damn plot TBH.
Not going near the hallucination by Emily on the kitchen floor at the end. Seriously?
IMO, Absentia is extremely fortunate to get a second season. I loved Stana in this but that aside there were so many areas of deficiency from the supporting acting, writing and general production. If you only watch to see Stana on your screen then that mission is achieved to a point. But do wish she was searching for a new project that wasn't a law enforcement person who is badass and with a troubled past. Emily, at times. was Kate Beckett on steroids but without the hair porn or wardrobe. Although we did get a short dress and stilettos at the end!
As I have posted previously, the male lead was beyond weak and the best of the other male cast was Emily's brother, Jack. Emily's father and the boy were also good. Tommy, is just way too full of himself and there was little chemistry between he and Emily so hoping that's not where they are heading.
So Emily needs some time-where have I heard that line before LOL? But at least she's off to climb mountains and not hide away from the world this time.
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Post by notfanatic on Nov 21, 2017 8:40:09 GMT
Apsentia's plot deserve a criticism but Absentia isn't exceptional in this area, 99% of shows, (especially American's ones IMO) have a huge plot holes by definition. Castle was full of them, maybe even more than Absentia. You need to switch off a logic and reality most of a time. Absentia isn't better and not worse than other shows in this sense. And I think this problem can't be a reason for cancellation in any case. Show made for that money looks very good from my POV.
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Post by jnorton45 on Nov 21, 2017 14:07:36 GMT
Most of the European thriller/detective shows that are longer format - 10 to 13 episodes to solve the initial crime - have big plot holes. Seems to go with the territory of doing something that long. At least Absentia has avoided much of the filler you come across in long format shows. The first season of "The Bridge" (the British/French direct copy) is tight, but also begs the questions "Why are the crimes so complicated?" Well, the producers didn't think they'd get past the first episode and villain is really crazy. Either or both.
You want plot holes go to the ABC "hit" the Good Doctor. Just goofy. The main character is Alexis dressed in a boy suit. More likely IBM's Watson. The rest of the cast comes off as egotistical surgeons with god complexes. Deep trouble.
The excuse is these European shows are "character driven." If there ever was a character driven show it's Absentia. It's all about Emily and nobody else. When Stana is on the screen that approach works without regard to writing and supporting characters. Nobody should expect more.
(Like the lighting and make up on Stana. Adds a lot to her angst. As far as any ensemble remarks go, it probably feels more like an ensemble to Stana than the last 2 or 3 years did on Castle.)
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Post by eeyore on Nov 21, 2017 19:46:28 GMT
Not going near the hallucination by Emily on the kitchen floor at the end. Seriously? Those who've seen the ending to The Killing III might see similarities, although the implications for Sarah Lund were more obviously serious. I think this will not impact on Emily in S2, even if it actually happened, due to her being exonerated by Crown in his press conference, but the revelation by Logan/Laura suggested Emily was involved, so the writers may decide to have it come back and bite her in the posterior.
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Post by alwaysafan on Nov 21, 2017 22:47:46 GMT
Not going near the hallucination by Emily on the kitchen floor at the end. Seriously? Those who've seen the ending to The Killing III might see similarities, although the implications for Sarah Lund were more obviously serious. I think this will not impact on Emily in S2, even if it actually happened, due to her being exonerated by Crown in his press conference, but the revelation by Logan/Laura suggested Emily was involved, so the writers may decide to have it come back and bite her in the posterior. I thought the ending was fine until they handcuffed her and put her in the car and we end up at a birthday party. Big hole!!!
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Post by NYerBornnbred on Nov 22, 2017 3:44:18 GMT
Well, that's that. I actually liked this episode more than most because it wasn't unrelieved blue-tinted misery. It really is okay to change it up once in a while (obviously, in my opinion, it's not only okay, it's required for any decent story-telling). It was all preposterous, of course, but that's to be expected (and I'm not being condescending - most thrillers are pretty preposterous, it's just that they can be much better-written and directed than this one).
Congratulations to Stana for getting a second season. My advice would be for her to put on her Executive Producer hat and hire a bunch of new writers and actors, and tell the director that it's okay to use natural light once in a while. I would also suggest that they completely abandon this story line and go in a totally different direction (despite the ending), but I can't imagine that that is going to happen.
And we even got to see Stana in shoes Beckett would have been proud to wear!
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Post by latte on Nov 22, 2017 6:49:09 GMT
Well, that's that. I actually liked this episode more than most because it wasn't unrelieved blue-tinted misery. It really is okay to change it up once in a while (obviously, in my opinion, it's not only okay, it's required for any decent story-telling). It was all preposterous, of course, but that's to be expected (and I'm not being condescending - most thrillers are pretty preposterous, it's just that they can be much better-written and directed than this one). Congratulations to Stana for getting a second season. My advice would be for her to put on her Executive Producer hat and hire a bunch of new writers and actors, and tell the director that it's okay to use natural light once in a while. I would also suggest that they completely abandon this story line and go in a totally different direction (despite the ending), but I can't imagine that that is going to happen. And we even got to see Stana in shoes Beckett would have been proud to wear! TBH, think Stana would be professionally better placed to devote her energy on a new project. This one is done.
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Post by jnorton45 on Nov 22, 2017 11:32:19 GMT
The word for the entire show is intense and more so in the finale. Pulling all the final elements together is messy as it usually is in these off the wall psychotic mystery-thrillers. It's almost expected when you've watch a number of these things.
As in every episode Stana dominates, carries the show and just does a top notch job overall. The fact that she does it so well and makes it look so natural/everyday tells us what a fine actress she is.
Still love the look and feel of the entire show. Directing is very good. Music, makeup, lighting all on the mark. They saved a great deal on the wardrobes of the main characters and spent it on all those cop uniforms. "Smokey Bear" hats must have to be imported into Bulgaria.
Editing of the shorter version used for commercial TV leaves much to be desired at every trun. Parts are well edited. Other parts are noticeably choppy. The more I think about it, the messiness and shortcomings of Absentia in this form may be due to the attempt to squeeze it into the 42+ minute format when it was shot for well for 50 minutes per episode. I hope Amazon opts for the longer version or at least you can get a directors cut on DVD.
Great final twist.
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Post by alwaysafan on Nov 22, 2017 13:05:39 GMT
The word for the entire show is intense and more so in the finale. Pulling all the final elements together is messy as it usually is in these off the wall psychotic mystery-thrillers. It's almost expected when you've watch a number of these things. As in every episode Stana dominates, carries the show and just does a top notch job overall. The fact that she does it so well and makes it look so natural/everyday tells us what a fine actress she is. Still love the look and feel of the entire show. Directing is very good. Music, makeup, lighting all on the mark. They saved a great deal on the wardrobes of the main characters and spent it on all those cop uniforms. "Smokey Bear" hats must have to be imported into Bulgaria. Editing of the shorter version used for commercial TV leaves much to be desired at every trun. Parts are well edited. Other parts are noticeably choppy. The more I think about it, the messiness and shortcomings of Absentia in this form may be due to the attempt to squeeze it into the 42+ minute format when it was shot for well for 50 minutes per episode. I hope Amazon opts for the longer version or at least you can get a directors cut on DVD. Great final twist. I thought Stana was outstanding and amazing but watching on a laptop was difficult. Be glad for the big TV screen
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Post by terry303 on Nov 22, 2017 13:39:59 GMT
I have to go back and see, but was the reporter at the house after flinn and alice were kidnapped?
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Post by temple01uk on Nov 22, 2017 18:26:39 GMT
As I mentioned in the Open Thread, Absentia would not be out of place with many of the Scandinavian Noir series like The Killing or The Bridge to name two of the best....if this is what they were shooting for then they succeeded and its little wonder that Amazon picked them up...I expect more of the same in Season 2 which according to rumour already has a script, so can we may see filming in the New Year in Bulgaria.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 9:46:26 GMT
The end of the series made in that way. They hinted on Emily's possible relationships with Tommy. Stana said plan for season 2 already exists so this scenario seems to be most likely one.. . I really like the chemistry between Emily and Tommy, and I really don’t care for Nick at all. Same. I really hope we get to see Emily and Tommy working together in season 2. I don't care about seeing much of what Nick and Alice are up to.
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Post by KB1L40 on Nov 25, 2017 22:22:15 GMT
Hi everyone
Apart from the sneaks I haven't seen this series but from what is said Stana dominates this series and I am wondering whether her acting has elevated her above the other performers that you feel they don't quite make it to her level?
Also Eeyore the ending for the final series of The Killing was a definite jaw on floor moment for me.
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Post by latte on Nov 27, 2017 1:26:02 GMT
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Post by latte on Nov 27, 2017 23:02:55 GMT
And just like that its over.
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Post by latte on Nov 27, 2017 23:08:53 GMT
Does this dialogue seem odd to anyone else? Maybe it was an edit or something?
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Post by lurker on Jan 25, 2018 17:19:39 GMT
Initial thoughts on this episode: And so we get to the end of Season One. Nice writing twist on the episode title of 'Original Sin'. So, Emily is kidnapped and tortured for six years to revenge her switching the student psych evaluations? The aim of the kidnapping is to program her to be a killer and then the revenge would be to have her convicted of the murder? Why in the hell not just frame Emily for a murder and save themselves all that trouble? Struggling to see the point of the whole damn plot TBH. Not going near the hallucination by Emily on the kitchen floor at the end. Seriously? IMO, Absentia is extremely fortunate to get a second season. I loved Stana in this but that aside there were so many areas of deficiency from the supporting acting, writing and general production. If you only watch to see Stana on your screen then that mission is achieved to a point. But do wish she was searching for a new project that wasn't a law enforcement person who is badass and with a troubled past. Emily, at times. was Kate Beckett on steroids but without the hair porn or wardrobe. Although we did get a short dress and stilettos at the end! As I have posted previously, the male lead was beyond weak and the best of the other male cast was Emily's brother, Jack. Emily's father and the boy were also good. Tommy, is just way too full of himself and there was little chemistry between he and Emily so hoping that's not where they are heading. So Emily needs some time-where have I heard that line before LOL? But at least she's off to climb mountains and not hide away from the world this time. The questions you've asked are for the killer actually. It's her sick mind that planned all that. The point was to turn Emily into a real killer not just to frame her. Framing isn't enough and it wouldn't have lasted for six years. The good doctor was producing his own little serial killers in that orphanage, and it appears that one pupil, not the one of his choice, was a success. Why not going near Emily's "hallucination"? If you believe the words of the real killer, Harlan was not her doing. Just curious.
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Post by jnorton45 on Jan 25, 2018 17:38:08 GMT
That last little hallucination is interesting. It's a great hook because it can mean so many different things. Emily did kill Harlan. Emily witnessed Harlan being killed. Emily is imagining Harlan being killed.
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Post by veritas on Jan 25, 2018 21:30:49 GMT
Initial thoughts on this episode: And so we get to the end of Season One. Nice writing twist on the episode title of 'Original Sin'. So, Emily is kidnapped and tortured for six years to revenge her switching the student psych evaluations? The aim of the kidnapping is to program her to be a killer and then the revenge would be to have her convicted of the murder? Why in the hell not just frame Emily for a murder and save themselves all that trouble? Struggling to see the point of the whole damn plot TBH. Not going near the hallucination by Emily on the kitchen floor at the end. Seriously? IMO, Absentia is extremely fortunate to get a second season. I loved Stana in this but that aside there were so many areas of deficiency from the supporting acting, writing and general production. If you only watch to see Stana on your screen then that mission is achieved to a point. But do wish she was searching for a new project that wasn't a law enforcement person who is badass and with a troubled past. Emily, at times. was Kate Beckett on steroids but without the hair porn or wardrobe. Although we did get a short dress and stilettos at the end! As I have posted previously, the male lead was beyond weak and the best of the other male cast was Emily's brother, Jack. Emily's father and the boy were also good. Tommy, is just way too full of himself and there was little chemistry between he and Emily so hoping that's not where they are heading. So Emily needs some time-where have I heard that line before LOL? But at least she's off to climb mountains and not hide away from the world this time. The questions you've asked are for the killer actually. It's her sick mind that planned all that. The point was to turn Emily into a real killer not just to frame her. Framing isn't enough and it wouldn't have lasted for six years. The good doctor was producing his own little serial killers in that orphanage, and it appears that one pupil, not the one of his choice, was a success. Why not going near Emily's "hallucination"? If you believe the words of the real killer, Harlan was not her doing. Just curious. On your FIRST POST! Welcome on board.
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Post by lurker on Jan 26, 2018 14:23:30 GMT
That last little hallucination is interesting. It's a great hook because it can mean so many different things. Emily did kill Harlan. Emily witnessed Harlan being killed. Emily is imagining Harlan being killed. For me it wasn't just a hook. The way that scene was filmed makes me wonder about couple of things. Sure Emily could have interrogated Harlan very heavily, something like she did with Radford. She wasn't gentle at all. But the whole scene was given from the view beneath the water, down and up. Hallucination? Maybe or maybe not. Distorted memory? Maybe or maybe not. Troubled mind can play tricks to no end. She is capable of killing, no doubt about that. She's got the aggression, the rage in herself in abundance. Even a good doctor thought her early psych evaluation was worth of adding her to his experiment. What I'm asking is why this way of filming: to make an impression on the viewer with the boom at the end, or is there more to it? If I remember correctly there were no scenes with just impression on mind. But of course I could be wrong. There's season two so...
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Post by KB1L40 on Feb 3, 2018 23:13:56 GMT
So, I have cheated and watched the first and the last episode without watching the ones inbetween because some cousins kindly allowed me to watch the final episode under their Prime membership as I am still reluctant to do the 30 day free trial although I am already an Amazon customer, just not very often.
All I could think was 'give Emily a break already!!' Despite everything that I assume happens in 2-9, Emily is still going through hell. Having to watch her son being punished for something that she did as a child...harsh. Finally being the one to take down her tormentor but showing that she could kill - again. And I just wanted someone to give Emily a hug as she looked out of the car window having to watch her son and her husband with someone else. A reminder as if needed of what she had lost. And damn, but when Stana/Emily smiled in the hospital, I couldn't help but smile with her. Also Emily and Nick seemed so at ease with each other. No awkwardness or embarrassment when they talked about the hotel and he told her he was going to be a dad again. And then the birthday party and how easy it seemed for Flynn to call Emily mom. Also obvious that Emily would always fear the sound of running water. And if she did kill Harlan would anyone really care? What would be achieved by punishing Emily for his death?
Not a series that I could watch again because it was tough watching just once, but I really, really hope (against hope probably) that Stana finally gets the recognition that her fans believe she deserves with some kind of award. Would she be eligible for the People's Choice Award at least?
B :-)
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Feb 13, 2018 11:59:38 GMT
Ok. Here is my 2cents on the 10th ep/final of Season 1:
Emily climbs down the hole and finds that it leads to the cavern and its various parts. She has more flashbacks, and is shot again....by the masked person. After looking through the various tunnels and etc, she comes across Alice asleep/unconscious? on a camp bed.....Then a monitor comes on, to reveal the masked person talking to her. the masked person wants Emily to kill Alice.... The monitor also shows movies of Emily as child at orphanage being aggressive, and that no one wanted to adopt her, so she decided to make sure she would be adopted by changing the files of her and another girl.
The girls name was Logan Brandt, and she was Subject B, who was also tortured and abused. Logan also explained that she wanted Emily to also kill Nick, but she didn't count on her mothers love for her son Flynn. ---and that reminded me of Emily's adoptive father, who chose her to be his daughter. He earlier told Jack that Jack was ok at that time, and that Emily needed him more, so Warren Byrnes love for his adopted daughter, saved her from the abuse and torture she had suffered/endured., ie that his love turned her around to become better.
Dr Shen believed that the children could be turned into killers. The masked person takes off their mask --- and its the female reporter.!!!. As a child at the orphanage her name was Logan Brandt. As the adult she was now, She used a voice changer to disguise it when being the masked person, to appear as a man. She admitted to killing Radford, Harlow, and Dr Shen. (with help of Charles??). Logan is also the brunette reporter who bailed Jack from jail and wanted info /to 'help' Emily.
Flynn is back in the water tank, and Nick rescues him. Nick then turns on Emily, and blames her for Flynn and Alice being taken.
Logan/reporter take off, Emily after her, and Nick is after both of them.....after a very tense search, guns raised to fire/kill, Nick is shot, and Logan tries to kill Emily. Eventually, Emily kills/drowns Logan. These scenes were extremely frantic, tense, and this ep the creepiest one of the lot.
That Logan/reporter/serial killer must have been a very disturbed child before the orphanage and the torture, because even though what Emily did as a child wasn't right, it didn't call for Logan to take Flynn, Alice and kill Radford, and frame Emily.
The FBI 2IC gives press conference exonerating Emily and saying her drowning of Logan/reporter/serial killer was self defence.
At hospital, Nick is recuperating. Emily visits. He does have the decency to apologise to Emily for doubting her and going after her. He also tells her that Alice is pregnant. He's lucky she accepted his apology. He is not a nice person. He should have believed her in the first place, all along and tried to help her clear her name, instead of going after her., and then telling her he has stopped believing in her innocence.
Flynn's 10th birthday party. He hugs Emily. The FBi have asked her if she wants to rejoin. She needs a break first. Tommy is being friendly/friendlier.
The dishwasher floods again, and this sets off more flashbacks for Emily. She sees her reflection in the stainless ssteel of the machine, and freaks out. She then has a flashback? of Harlow dead in the pool, and her standing watching him.
Im with the poster further up: Im taking it that she is thinking of killing him, but not actually doing it.
Thrillers are not my cup of tea, but I did like this, mainly because Stana was in it, was the Lead Actress in it, was an Executive Producer of it
Further observations; Was Radford involved in Emily's kidnapping? because if not, why was he murdered by Logan?
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Feb 19, 2018 12:06:43 GMT
Ok. I have seen ep 10 more than twice. I am however confused about a few things:
Was Emily's brother Jack involved or not in her kidnapping --- or was it a mere coincidence that he was involved with the 'call girls' ie human trafficked of trafficker, Semerov, who was found floating in river in ep 1?
Why did Tommy have the phone of 'witness' Kelly aka crim Regina, and her Kelly name was given to hy the crooked FBI cop, and why did Tommy get annoyed that 'Kelly' was not answering her phone?
Other observations: Three people said the phrase:...."This is your 2nd chance. People don't get 2nd chances too often. Don't waste it".
1. Harlow when he rang Nick at home in bed (or was it the female reporter masking her voice??)
2. FBi Field Office boss, Adam Radford to Nick in ep 3, The Emily Show. Nick had just asked Radford if he knew 'Kelly Price', and that was his response.....
3. The female serial killer Laurie/Logan/masked person to Emily in the cavern in ep 10 Original Sin.
If Radford wasn't involved in the kidnapping how would he know that phrase?
Does anyone have any idea/thoughts/theories -- seeing as it wasn't properly explained.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Feb 20, 2018 11:59:24 GMT
I am not a fan of thrillers, or psychological movies and etc, but, I only watched Absentia because Stana was in it and was the Lead Actress and an Executive Producer. I liked Absentia because of Stana, and her next role after Castle.
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