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Post by veritas on Apr 1, 2017 14:32:25 GMT
What storyline would you have loved to see developed further in the show-
or perhaps one that wasn't even developed at all?
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 1, 2017 15:20:21 GMT
The continuation of the Maddie storyline. Kates high school French classmate. Maddie was introduced in Season 2 episode 20 Food to Die For and (in)famously told Kate that she Kate had the hots for Rick and wanted to have "little Castle babies". Maddie also dated Rick. Maddie never appeared in any further episodes -- and she should have. It would have been great to further develop her character to have further input in the storyline of the show, in the same way that Meredith was to the degree that she was.
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Post by latte on Apr 2, 2017 10:29:37 GMT
The continuation of the Maddie storyline. Kates high school French classmate. Maddie was introduced in Season 2 episode 20 Food to Die For and (in)famously told Kate that she Kate had the hots for Rick and wanted to have "little Castle babies". Maddie also dated Rick. Maddie never appeared in any further episodes -- and she should have. It would have been great to further develop her character to have further input in the storyline of the show, in the same way that Meredith was to the degree that she was. Loved Maddie and what a great scene between her and Beckett in the Interrogation Room! I'm going to double up with these as I think Maddie could have been a Character they brought back for another storyline.
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Post by The Writers Muse on Apr 2, 2017 12:42:44 GMT
I wish the whole Locksat storyline had never been developed and Castle's stupid disappearance! They had so much potential with the characters otherwise, but they chose that awful route. Big train-wreck. I was going to post pictures, but I will be nice and not do such a thing.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 2, 2017 13:24:33 GMT
The continuation of the Maddie storyline. Kates high school French classmate. Maddie was introduced in Season 2 episode 20 Food to Die For and (in)famously told Kate that she Kate had the hots for Rick and wanted to have "little Castle babies". Maddie also dated Rick. Maddie never appeared in any further episodes -- and she should have. It would have been great to further develop her character to have further input in the storyline of the show, in the same way that Meredith was to the degree that she was. Loved Maddie and what a great scene between her and Beckett in the Interrogation Room! I'm going to double up with these as I think Maddie could have been a Character they brought back for another storyline. Totally agree with you Latte, and I also think she could have been brought back a few times. Just for the squirm factor alone, and also from Season 5 onwards, then 6......maybe even have a surprise visit in the Baby ep...the ratings would have been through the roof!!!. But alas they didnt. If Only!!........
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 2, 2017 15:34:55 GMT
I wish the whole Locksat storyline had never been developed and Castle's stupid disappearance! They had so much potential with the characters otherwise, but they chose that awful route. Big train-wreck. I was going to post pictures, but I will be nice and not do such a thing. Totally agree with you re Locksat and also Rick's stupid disappearance. Two of the worst storylines ever done. Which also helped lower the ratings, and also lower viewers.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 2, 2017 15:49:29 GMT
Espo should have had a proper ongoing relationship with a girlfriend. The showrunners all toyed with the fans of Espo and Lanie. On and off for years, then finally a realisation they only wanted to be friends in season 7? Bad Santa.
That wasnt fair to the fans of Espo or Lanie. I wanst a fan of Espo per se, but a fan of fairness. It wasnt nice to keep the fans in a holding pattern without a decent payoff. Ryan had Jenny.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 8, 2017 13:49:06 GMT
I think there was scope to further Agent Fallon of Season 3's episodes 16 and 17, ie Set Up and Countdown. He could have been returned for another two eps, in Season 5 or 6, if only to comment that Rick and Kate were a couple. He said that when he first met them, he thought they were a couple. Maybe he could have been involved in Still? Or the 2nd last of season 5.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 8, 2017 13:53:10 GMT
I also think that the fact of Meredith having the affair with a director, should have been divulged to Kate in Season 5 or 6. It especially should have emerged after Significant Others. Kate never knew the truth - at least it wasnt part of canon.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 8, 2017 13:58:41 GMT
The poker games with the writers alone, and also with Kate and the boys, should have kept happening. I think they stopped in Season 3. It should have kept going to also further cement that Rick was a mystery novelist who also had poker nights.
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Post by latte on Apr 12, 2017 10:28:25 GMT
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Post by latte on Apr 12, 2017 10:33:32 GMT
The poker games with the writers alone, and also with Kate and the boys, should have kept happening. I think they stopped in Season 3. It should have kept going to also further cement that Rick was a mystery novelist who also had poker nights. I had totally forgotten they actually had a female cast as the dealer. Remember this face?
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Post by latte on Apr 12, 2017 10:47:12 GMT
I also think that the fact of Meredith having the affair with a director, should have been divulged to Kate in Season 5 or 6. It especially should have emerged after Significant Others. Kate never knew the truth - at least it wasnt part of canon. This so much. It was typical that they never showed us any meaningful conversations like this one. Yet they showed us the Meredith and Kate conversation which should have been followed up but as usual it was quickly forgotten. 'If Only"......
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Post by latte on Apr 12, 2017 10:51:02 GMT
Espo should have had a proper ongoing relationship with a girlfriend. The showrunners all toyed with the fans of Espo and Lanie. On and off for years, then finally a realisation they only wanted to be friends in season 7? Bad Santa. That wasnt fair to the fans of Espo or Lanie. I wanst a fan of Espo per se, but a fan of fairness. It wasnt nice to keep the fans in a holding pattern without a decent payoff. Ryan had Jenny. Always thought there was potential with the Transit Cop and Espo-thought the actor did a solid job in this episode and there was more on screen chemistry between Espo and this character than with Lanie IMO.
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Post by latte on Apr 12, 2017 10:58:52 GMT
I think there was scope to further Agent Fallon of Season 3's episodes 16 and 17, ie Set Up and Countdown. He could have been returned for another two eps, in Season 5 or 6, if only to comment that Rick and Kate were a couple. He said that when he first met them, he thought they were a couple. Maybe he could have been involved in Still? Or the 2nd last of season 5. Yep, another possible return character.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 13, 2017 15:44:16 GMT
Latte -- many many thanks for the above bts pic!!!
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 13, 2017 15:50:56 GMT
I also think that the fact of Meredith having the affair with a director, should have been divulged to Kate in Season 5 or 6. It especially should have emerged after Significant Others. Kate never knew the truth - at least it wasnt part of canon. This so much. It was typical that they never showed us any meaningful conversations like this one. Yet they showed us the Meredith and Kate conversation which should have been followed up but as usual it was quickly forgotten. 'If Only"......I wonder if the showrunners chose not to further that discussion/storyline, or whether you know who told them not to.....
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 13, 2017 15:56:45 GMT
Espo should have had a proper ongoing relationship with a girlfriend. The showrunners all toyed with the fans of Espo and Lanie. On and off for years, then finally a realisation they only wanted to be friends in season 7? Bad Santa. That wasnt fair to the fans of Espo or Lanie. I wanst a fan of Espo per se, but a fan of fairness. It wasnt nice to keep the fans in a holding pattern without a decent payoff. Ryan had Jenny. Always thought there was potential with the Transit Cop and Espo-thought the actor did a solid job in this episode and there was more on screen chemistry between Espo and this character than with Lanie IMO. I totally agree. And it took the showrunners 7 seasons of dangling the Espo and Lanie carrot in front of their fans -- to finally stop it in Bad Santa.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 13, 2017 16:00:00 GMT
The poker games with the writers alone, and also with Kate and the boys, should have kept happening. I think they stopped in Season 3. It should have kept going to also further cement that Rick was a mystery novelist who also had poker nights. I had totally forgotten they actually had a female cast as the dealer. Remember this face? Not really.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 13, 2017 16:05:20 GMT
Re Underused Jim Beckett.... I cant imagine Scott Paulin would have been too impressed either. And especially re the actual wedding. According to his Wiki page, Scott Paulin has a real life daughter called....Katherine!!! and Scott Paulin is also a Director, and does stage too.
Many many thanks for all the gifs of Jim Beckett and Kate!!!
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Post by latte on Apr 13, 2017 22:53:59 GMT
Latte -- many many thanks for the above bts pic!!!
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Post by latte on Apr 13, 2017 22:59:13 GMT
I wonder if the showrunners chose not to further that discussion/storyline, or whether you know who told them not to..... I'm going to go with their consistent approach that frequently never tied up loose ends like this-no follow on. Think they worked on the premise that every episode was independent of the one previous-they appeared to either struggle to carry a narrative or they were not skilled enough to do it? Even within the same episode they would jump to the next scene and the character shows no impact from the one before. Most striking example I that comes to mind is the brutal beating that Beckett received before hanging off the roof. In both #423 and #501, she showed no bruising or other obvious signs of the fight. It was like it never happened!
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Post by latte on Apr 13, 2017 23:01:07 GMT
Re Underused Jim Beckett.... I cant imagine Scott Paulin would have been too impressed either. And especially re the actual wedding. According to his Wiki page, Scott Paulin has a real life daughter called....Katherine!!! and Scott Paulin is also a Director, and does stage too. Many many thanks for all the gifs of Jim Beckett and Kate!!! Agreed. Do remember reading a comment by Scott on the engagement news at the end of S5 and he said he looked forward to returning for the wedding. Bet he didn't think it would be a non speaking cameo appearance!
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Post by latte on Apr 13, 2017 23:08:19 GMT
I had totally forgotten they actually had a female cast as the dealer. Remember this face? Not really. Me either, but there was also another female in the scene-check this pic out.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 15, 2017 14:15:37 GMT
You have better eyes than I do Latte!!!
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 15, 2017 14:21:00 GMT
Further to Underused Scott Paulin as Jim Beckett, they also could have had way more family dinners than they did. And especially from the engagement onwards. In fact, there was never even an engagement party!!!
But the worst thing they didnt do was not having Jim Beckett say some words at the actual wedding!!!
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 15, 2017 14:30:15 GMT
Season 2 episode 10 One Man's Treasure.....Written by Elizabeth Davis (who marries/ied Will Beal).....
Alexis does Work Experience at the Precinct...........and so bonds with Kate. The first time, and the only mainly posistive time she does. If Only the show had bothered to encourage Alexis bonding with Kate more than she did. What happened in Season 8 was a travesty. (Im trying to be positive here, but that point and obnoxious storyline needs to be mentioned as it became like an insult to Kate. ie Alexis bonding with the newcomer hayley, when she never bonded properly with Kate -- even after Kate finally became Rick's girlfriend.
And if the showrunners dont think viewers/fans didnt notice this, they have rocks in their heads, as it was glaringly obvious.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 15, 2017 14:33:57 GMT
Re Underused Jim Beckett.... I cant imagine Scott Paulin would have been too impressed either. And especially re the actual wedding. According to his Wiki page, Scott Paulin has a real life daughter called....Katherine!!! and Scott Paulin is also a Director, and does stage too. Many many thanks for all the gifs of Jim Beckett and Kate!!! Agreed. Do remember reading a comment by Scott on the engagement news at the end of S5 and he said he looked forward to returning for the wedding. Bet he didn't think it would be a non speaking cameo appearance!And I totally agree with your last sentence!!!
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 15, 2017 14:53:30 GMT
I wonder if the showrunners chose not to further that discussion/storyline, or whether you know who told them not to..... I'm going to go with their consistent approach that frequently never tied up loose ends like this-no follow on. Think they worked on the premise that every episode was independent of the one previous-they appeared to either struggle to carry a narrative or they were not skilled enough to do it? Even within the same episode they would jump to the next scene and the character shows no impact from the one before. Most striking example I that comes to mind is the brutal beating that Beckett received before hanging off the roof. In both #423 and #501, she showed no bruising or other obvious signs of the fight. It was like it never happened! I think Castle the show was both a series and a serial. A serial is where parts of eps are continued in either the next, or others further down the line. I also think they had some issues with continuity - and probably thought no one (or many) would notice. And yes the scenes you cite above re Kates beating v how she appeared straight after it, shouldve shown her with marks from the beating. I think in their case, it was a toss up between not skilled enough re continuity, or they thought/hoped viewers/fans wouldnt notice/think twice. Unless they showrunners were thinking that Kate was more intent on getting together with Rick and not worrrying/thinking about her beating, and so showrunners just wanted to ignore beating?? ie they may have been thinking 'dont worry if Kate has broken rib/s, broken fingers, shoulder, hand or whatever - viewers just want to see Kate and Rick finally get together. But you definately raise a very pertinent point.
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Post by latte on Apr 16, 2017 0:37:46 GMT
I'm going to go with their consistent approach that frequently never tied up loose ends like this-no follow on. Think they worked on the premise that every episode was independent of the one previous-they appeared to either struggle to carry a narrative or they were not skilled enough to do it? Even within the same episode they would jump to the next scene and the character shows no impact from the one before. Most striking example I that comes to mind is the brutal beating that Beckett received before hanging off the roof. In both #423 and #501, she showed no bruising or other obvious signs of the fight. It was like it never happened! I think Castle the show was both a series and a serial. A serial is where parts of eps are continued in either the next, or others further down the line. I also think they had some issues with continuity - and probably thought no one (or many) would notice. And yes the scenes you cite above re Kates beating v how she appeared straight after it, shouldve shown her with marks from the beating. I think in their case, it was a toss up between not skilled enough re continuity, or they thought/hoped viewers/fans wouldnt notice/think twice. Unless they showrunners were thinking that Kate was more intent on getting together with Rick and not worrrying/thinking about her beating, and so showrunners just wanted to ignore beating?? ie they may have been thinking 'dont worry if Kate has broken rib/s, broken fingers, shoulder, hand or whatever - viewers just want to see Kate and Rick finally get together. But you definately raise a very pertinent point. As for their skills in continuity they couldn't even get the position of Beckett's bullet wound scar consistent-sometimes it wasn't even there!
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