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Post by latte on Apr 16, 2017 0:39:38 GMT
You have better eyes than I do Latte!!! Nah, just picked it up from looking at the episode pics! But I'll take the compliment-need all I can get!!
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 20, 2017 11:12:20 GMT
Season 2 episode 20 ...Food To Die For ....Writer....Terri Edda Miller
This comment is not for this ep per se, but more for what the comment "little Castle babies" could have evolved - but didnt.
If Only ....Kate was allowed to have a pregnancy/or false alarm in season 7 and or 8.
If Only....Caskett fans/Stana Katic fans were able to see Kate and Rick have more time in seconds or minutes... and actual dialogue with their kids in Season 8 ep 22 Crossfire.
If Only...Stana and Kate had been able to have a storyline that dealt with Kate having to deal with a possible pregnancy scare, then an actual one, and figure out how being a working mother would fit.
Many mothers also work outside of motherhood. So showing how Kate Beckett handled it would have been great to see.
The infamous dialogue by Maddie in this ep of saying that Kate wanted to have "little Castle babies", should not have taken the time or route it did to keep us Caskett fans glued waiting for it to happen. The closest it came was the infamous Baby ep re little Cosmo/Benny, and Kate and Rick becoming foster parents overnight in season 5 ep 10.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 20, 2017 11:28:38 GMT
Season 2 episode 21 Den of Thieves....Writer....Will Beall.....
This ep is infamous for introducing Robbery detective, Tom Demming, making Rick very jealous.
This ep also introduced Javier's original partner, Ike Thornton, who was believed dead -- but apparently wasnt.
The 54th Precinct had a corrupt cop. Javier and Ike were from there originally.
If Only......Ike Thornton had made one or more return visits to the show. It would have been great to see Javier continue this storyline, with Ike a free man and back at the 54th Precinct, and also it would have been great to see Javier interract with someone other than Ryan -- and Kate -- and Rick and Captain Montgomery/Gates.
If Only.............
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Post by KB1L40 on Apr 23, 2017 22:04:58 GMT
Hi everyone!
I think for me the 3 'If Only' should have been:
Definitely a conversation with Rick about why his marriages failed so that Kate could understand some of Rick's insecurities.
A relationship with Alexis and Kate that was only touched on when Alexis asked Kate for her opinion when she was considering college. Same with Martha, no relationship with Kate which should have been seen when Rick was missing but nothing.
And THE one for me was just how much Rick's books had helped Kate deal with her mother's death. Did Joanna introduce Kate to his books so that reading them felt as if her mother was still with her? If only Rick, the international best selling author who could read Kate like a book had not disappeared and had been with her to reminisce with her in her apartment before she gave it up. The fight that resulted in Kate finally admitting that all she wanted was Rick. The agreement that only the immediate family would know of Montgomery's involvement in her mother's murder. The discovery of the numbers that lead to Senator Bracken. Once at the loft as Rick was putting her books on the shelf to see the book that he had signed. To vaguely remember that day. Kate's sad but gorgeous eyes and the colors that she was wearing but not what she was wearing.
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Post by liz416 on Apr 24, 2017 2:36:42 GMT
Hi everyone! I think for me the 3 'If Only' should have been: Definitely a conversation with Rick about why his marriages failed so that Kate could understand some of Rick's insecurities. A relationship with Alexis and Kate that was only touched on when Alexis asked Kate for her opinion when she was considering college. Same with Martha, no relationship with Kate which should have been seen when Rick was missing but nothing. And THE one for me was just how much Rick's books had helped Kate deal with her mother's death. Did Joanna introduce Kate to his books so that reading them felt as if her mother was still with her? If only Rick, the international best selling author who could read Kate like a book had not disappeared and had been with her to reminisce with her in her apartment before she gave it up. The fight that resulted in Kate finally admitting that all she wanted was Rick. The agreement that only the immediate family would know of Montgomery's involvement in her mother's murder. The discovery of the numbers that lead to Senator Bracken. Once at the loft as Rick was putting her books on the shelf to see the book that he had signed. To vaguely remember that day. Kate's sad but gorgeous eyes and the colors that she was wearing but not what she was wearing. B. :-) Pretty much my thoughts exactly - especially how his books helped her. And, no, I don't count the 2 sec conversation about loving his books in Time of Our Lives. And what happened with his marriages. She should've talked to him after Meredith's comments in Significant Others. But this subject of what was missing from the show is never ending. Just too much to even think about
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 25, 2017 13:29:42 GMT
Hi everyone! I think for me the 3 'If Only' should have been: Definitely a conversation with Rick about why his marriages failed so that Kate could understand some of Rick's insecurities. A relationship with Alexis and Kate that was only touched on when Alexis asked Kate for her opinion when she was considering college. Same with Martha, no relationship with Kate which should have been seen when Rick was missing but nothing. And THE one for me was just how much Rick's books had helped Kate deal with her mother's death. Did Joanna introduce Kate to his books so that reading them felt as if her mother was still with her? If only Rick, the international best selling author who could read Kate like a book had not disappeared and had been with her to reminisce with her in her apartment before she gave it up. The fight that resulted in Kate finally admitting that all she wanted was Rick. The agreement that only the immediate family would know of Montgomery's involvement in her mother's murder. The discovery of the numbers that lead to Senator Bracken. Once at the loft as Rick was putting her books on the shelf to see the book that he had signed. To vaguely remember that day. Kate's sad but gorgeous eyes and the colors that she was wearing but not what she was wearing. B. :-) That point was mentioned only with the FBI boyfriend Will Sorenson in Season 1. And I think it was him who actually dialogued it. You also raise another point: did Kates mother Johanna put her onto Rick's books before she died -- or was it Kates own idea? Its a moot point, but Rick never knew either way. And he should have! Unless Kate didnt want to further his ego once she met him properly? ie the first case. ie After she read his police record and knew of his past exploits with the law.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 25, 2017 13:40:33 GMT
Hi everyone! I think for me the 3 'If Only' should have been: Definitely a conversation with Rick about why his marriages failed so that Kate could understand some of Rick's insecurities. A relationship with Alexis and Kate that was only touched on when Alexis asked Kate for her opinion when she was considering college. Same with Martha, no relationship with Kate which should have been seen when Rick was missing but nothing. And THE one for me was just how much Rick's books had helped Kate deal with her mother's death. Did Joanna introduce Kate to his books so that reading them felt as if her mother was still with her? If only Rick, the international best selling author who could read Kate like a book had not disappeared and had been with her to reminisce with her in her apartment before she gave it up. The fight that resulted in Kate finally admitting that all she wanted was Rick. The agreement that only the immediate family would know of Montgomery's involvement in her mother's murder. The discovery of the numbers that lead to Senator Bracken. Once at the loft as Rick was putting her books on the shelf to see the book that he had signed. To vaguely remember that day. Kate's sad but gorgeous eyes and the colors that she was wearing but not what she was wearing. B. :-) Pretty much my thoughts exactly - especially how his books helped her. And, no, I don't count the 2 sec conversation about loving his books in Time of Our Lives. And what happened with his marriages. She should've talked to him after Meredith's comments in Significant Others. But this subject of what was missing from the show is never ending. Just too much to even think about Totally agree that Kate should have spoken to Rick re his broken marriage with Meredith -- and what happened with Gina.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on May 2, 2017 4:40:52 GMT
Why on earth Didnt the showrunners ever bother to actually DO the Johanna Beckett Fundraiser/Benefit? Even having dialogue to say it was on, never happened. If they could do a spoof on Nikki Heat ie as in the episode of Nikki Heat, they could have done the fundraiser for Johanna Beckett Scholarship for students. Unless the showrunners thought it was more apt to Only do the hunt for the killer of Johanna??
The whole Basis/Premise for the Character of Detective Kate Beckett was Kate grieving for her murdered mother, and her virtual shutdown because of it. Plus her wanting Justice for other victims because of it. And also the search for her killer -- and those responsible. It seems Wrong to Not do the Benefit -- even the dialogue of it. The Benefit would have added another dimension to Kate and her recovery of Johannas murder.
But even One episode Doing the Fundraiser would have been Better than N o t h i n g.
The fundraiser scene would have added a bit more hopefulness to the tragic/evil murder of Johanna. Ie Something to take away from the sadness of it.
(Or was it because Alexi Hawley wrote the episode of Lucky Stiff in which it was dialogued??)
But surely series Creator and Writer, Andrew Marlowe could have written the Benefit ie a scene, or just the fact it was on?? But Alas No.
If Only. . . . .
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Post by KB1L40 on May 5, 2017 1:09:49 GMT
Syd - I agree about Gina. We knew even less about why his marriage to her failed than why it failed with Meredith. Also agree that it would have been fun to have seen how Rick & Kate dealt with becoming parents and what a waste after a brilliant casting of those youngsters playing their children to not have had some dialogue with them.
If Only - we had actually seen THE wedding. All that was needed was a scene with father & daughter. For once Jim was not required to be there for his daughter because she was going through some crisis but the happiest day of her life that Kate perhaps thought would never happen. A scene between mother & son with Martha telling Rick how worried she was because he had never wanted anything as much as he had wanted a life with Kate. That look on Rick's face as he watched Jim walk Kate to him. The exchange of vows with Jenny & Ryan smiling at each other as they remembered their day, and Lanie somewhat puzzled by the look that Espo was giving her. The "you may kiss the bride" having the boys make some remark and being introduced to Mr & Mrs Castle. And then when finally alone, Rick leaning in the doorway to the bedroom, Kate her back to him, turning as she hears their song playing. They dance and it leads into their first night together as husband and wife. If that was too long to play on tv, then that's why dvd's were invented so that fans of shows/movies can enjoy extended editions to their hearts content!
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Post by KB1L40 on May 5, 2017 21:40:08 GMT
If Only - Lanie had been given her own episode. I mean Hayley is in the series for like 2 minutes and she gets an episode?? A story where Lanie's abilities as an ME is called into question because of evidence. Maybe Perlmutter has to go over everything that was presented in the case. Lanie although she would trust the team to do their best to prove her abilities, she would try to show just how good she is at her job and in doing so puts herself in danger.
If Only - Jim had first hand experience of just how good Kate and her team were because a case he was working puts either him or his client in the frame for murder. If Only - the writers had the ability to evolve the way the characters and the fans did. To me it looked as if they were so focussed on keeping Kate and the boys at the 12th and Rick, his mom and daughter at the loft that despite the fact that Rick & Kate got together they never allowed those two locations to merge so that the boys were seen at the loft enjoying an evening with Rick & Kate. Not just the boys but Jenny and kids and Lanie.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on May 6, 2017 13:22:39 GMT
Syd - I agree about Gina. We knew even less about why his marriage to her failed than why it failed with Meredith. Also agree that it would have been fun to have seen how Rick & Kate dealt with becoming parents and what a waste after a brilliant casting of those youngsters playing their children to not have had some dialogue with them.
If Only - we had actually seen THE wedding. All that was needed was a scene with father & daughter. For once Jim was not required to be there for his daughter because she was going through some crisis but the happiest day of her life that Kate perhaps thought would never happen. A scene between mother & son with Martha telling Rick how worried she was because he had never wanted anything as much as he had wanted a life with Kate. That look on Rick's face as he watched Jim walk Kate to him. The exchange of vows with Jenny & Ryan smiling at each other as they remembered their day, and Lanie somewhat puzzled by the look that Espo was giving her. The "you may kiss the bride" having the boys make some remark and being introduced to Mr & Mrs Castle. And then when finally alone, Rick leaning in the doorway to the bedroom, Kate her back to him, turning as she hears their song playing. They dance and it leads into their first night together as husband and wife. If that was too long to play on tv, then that's why dvd's were invented so that fans of shows/movies can enjoy extended editions to their hearts content!
B. :-) The showrunner was determined Not to divulge exactly What happened with Rick and Gina. Maybe Rick procrastinated too long re his writing which led to his block - and Gina got fed up waiting. We did get a glimpse in the Pilot, aka Flowers For Your Grave. And that led to the collapse of the marriage. But it was never actually said. Gina did enjoy his money....as did Meredith. It was hard to see Rick and Gina go to the Hamptons in Season 2 finale. Totally agree re it would have been brilliant to see Rick and Kate have dialogue with their kids. It would also have been brilliant to have a pregnancy scare, then a real one and for Kate to deal with it, and for both of them to deal with impending parenthood, and for Rick - his next time around. Also agree that it was a waste to have cast the kids - only for not much interracting. We should have had at least 5 minutes of that - and less of Rick with Mason Wood and his truth serum henchman. Totally agree with you If Only we had Seen the Actual First Wedding that had been planned for all of Season 6!!! Plus that Kates dad, Jim Beckett, had had dialogue as the Father of the Bride , in the tacked on wedding. Also If Only the boys and Lanie had gone to the tacked on wedding - and in their roles of Ushers, and Bridesmaid. Or If Only the Bridal Dance was longer than it was!! Or we had a scene of Mr & Mrs Castle in their bedroom, and a replay of Always!! (or similar). Us fans had been given the bare basics of what Should Have Been a Major Media Storyline - 6 Years in the Making!! and Season 6 had the Highest Ratings . Totally agree with your last paragraph!!
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on May 6, 2017 16:41:24 GMT
Season 3 episode 22 -- To Love and Die in LA....... (Writer.......Alexi Hawley....).....
This is both a What If and a If Only -- Because....W h a t I f Kate Had Decided to Open her door Before Rick had retired to his own room: ie
Would Kate deciding to sleep with Rick have changed the tone of the storyline then ie made it 'worse' ie made it more angstier.
Would Kate sleeping with Rick then only be because she felt 'pressured' to? Because it/they were in LA and not NY?
would Kate have been annoyed/angry/dissapointed with/in herself for giving in to temptation by sleeping with Rick 'only' because they were in LA -- and not in NY?
If Kate slept with Rick then, would it be because she really wanted to, or because she needed comfort from Mike Royce's murder? Or would it have been a case of both?
would Kate have regretted sleeping with Rick then -- and thus making their relationship worse?
Would Kate by sleeping with Rick have her believe she wasnt all that special to him?
Did Kate feel or believe that she made the right decision by not sleeping with Rick in LA?
Did Kate not want to risk their working partnership so chose to not sleep with Rick?
I believe she made the right decision. But thats me.
I still believe that Always was dragged out too far. ie Always should have happened earlier than s4 finale.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on May 7, 2017 5:01:03 GMT
S e a s o n 4 E p i s o d e 1 R i s e: Writer: Andrew Marlowe (Series Creator)
If Only.....the dialogue was more exact re why Kate hadnt rung Rick since her release from hospital and hadnt spoken to him for 3 months. Her reasons were excuses - but not the full or proper truth.
Could Kate have blamed Rick for forceably removing her from harms way and her not seeing her beloved Captain Roy Montgomery gunned down, even though Monty asked Rick to take her away? -- even though she may have been murdered herself?
Could Kate have been angry with herself for being attracted to/in love with Rick, but also still upset with him for involving himself with the closed case of Kates murdered mother?
After Kates surgery on her heart, and when in Recovery, and Rick arrived with the huge bouquet of flowers, and telling her he never thought he would see her again, Kates expression changed. She then said she didnt remember the shooting.
Season 4 was based on Knockout, and the first scene of Rise, and the subsequent scenes of Kates return to the Precinct, her going to Rick's booksiging, and their talk at the swings, and to a lesser extent, the new Captain of the 12th Precinct, Victoria Gates from IAD, who was not a fan of Rick.
The fans/viewers had to guess/theorise what was going on. And the continuation of the carrot dangling of the fans/viewers continued, plus the stirring of us as well for the rest of Season 4.
If Only the dialogue from Kate was more literal.
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Post by liz416 on May 7, 2017 12:42:14 GMT
If only.. we had seen the continued discussion and then "presentation" of the contents of Kate's "kinky past box."
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on May 8, 2017 6:51:07 GMT
If only.. we had seen the continued discussion and then "presentation" of the contents of Kate's "kinky past box." Oh Liz, you have made me gaffaw out loud!!! I totally agree with you that we never ever saw the "presentation" of Kate's "kinky past box"!!! --- and we so should have!! It would have been interesting to see what it would have entailed!! Or even Kate showing what other magic tricks she could do!!
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on May 28, 2017 10:14:33 GMT
Season 5 Past.....ep 14 Reality Star Struck....
If Only........it had been dialogued that the skull bangle Kate was seen wearing afer this episode, was the replacement gift from Rick for the sapphire drop earings..........
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on May 28, 2017 11:19:51 GMT
If Only...........dialogue had actually been written AND a SCENE done that SHOWED Rick toppng Kate's birthday surprise for him.
It never happened. It was another storyline that went nowhere.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Jun 12, 2017 11:48:01 GMT
I f O n l y...........Kate's dad, lawyer Jim Beckett had been in more eps, had had his own storyline re a/more cases that ended up in murder, that Kate and Rick had to investigate;
I f O n l y...........Jim Beckett had had dinner at the loft way more than he did!!!(that was scripted and an actual scene); that happened only 1 time in s5, and N e v e r Season 6 (during engagement); Or during season 7 after wedding --- and thats also when it would have been good ie newlyweds and Jim and Martha and finally being a joined family.
I f O n l y .......Jim Beckett had been involved more in the planning with his daughter of the wedding (it would have been nice to see. Martha was the only parent involved......)
I f O n l y.........Jim had said a few words during the Hamptons wedding to Kate to say how happy he was that she was finally marrying the love of her life; and to Rick, that Jim told Rick to ensure that Kate had a very happy marriage....
I f O n l y........there had been a scene in which Kate thought she was pregnant, then found she was, and and she after a few months, told Jim.
B u t a l a s.......nothing. And What a Shame. And the show also suffered because of it.
We the fans were Not Being Listened To. We the fans Needed to Be Listened to.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Jun 12, 2017 13:14:13 GMT
I f O n l y.......Kate had been able to have a pregnancy scare episode/s, then later actually fall pregnant. (Stana could have worn pregnancy tummy).
The four things Caskett fans had always wanted: Caskett to happen; get engaged, get married, get pregnant and become parents. The show ending with them with first baby. Plus/Then do the 7 years later bit....
We got denied an engagement party; We got denied the original wedding with all the finery; then we Didnt get Jim saying few words to Kate and Rick At their tacked on wedding.
I f O n l y.......we'd also had an episode which dealt with Kates birthday. Her birthdate was mentioned, Her age mentioned once, but not party for Kate's birthday.
(We Did get book readings, book parties (Heatwave), plus Ricks birthday......but no Kates birthday.........yet the show was basically about Kate being a Detective/Captain and solving murders. Kate was half the show.....yet no birthday party nor a dinner for her.....)
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Jul 13, 2017 16:01:00 GMT
IF ONLY....... Re Crossfire, the showrunners had bothered to think of us fans, and especially Caskett fans, and had done a scene with a few words with Kate and Rick and their 3 kids,....and a phone call from Maddie, asking how the three kids were......and with Lily calling Maddie 'Auntie Maddie'.....that wouldve had the scene come full circle.
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Post by latte on Jul 20, 2017 22:26:22 GMT
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Post by latte on Jul 20, 2017 22:34:51 GMT
She calls him Rick! If only that would have talked about it-any of it!
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Post by castlegramma on Jul 22, 2017 4:21:56 GMT
Totally agree. Would have been great to develop this friendship to allow us to understand more of Beckett's (and Laney"s) inner thoughts and just to see/hear that girl to girl talk. They could have had lots of good banter.
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Post by KB1L40 on Aug 9, 2017 12:19:49 GMT
If Only we could have a reboot of S8 like they did with Dallas. Instead of Pam dreaming, it would be Kate stressing out over her new role as Captain and she would have had the nightmare that was S8. She would go out of the bedroom to find that Rick had cooked her a special breakfast for her first day and presented her with that beautiful bracelet which she is seen to wear and which made her smile every time she looked at it especially when she was feeling the pressure at work. S8 in the first part would be them trying to adjust to her new role which would have lead to arguments because they never seemed to be home at the same time. Martha would intervene making them sit down and just talk it out. Next several episodes would have been Rick & Kate making up, maybe even getting a proper honeymoon and renewing their vows in front of all their friends. In the final part, it would have been Kate finding herself pregnant and the final episode could have been Kate giving birth.
Sadly with how the lead actors appeared to be with each other at the end....
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Aug 11, 2017 3:47:06 GMT
If Only we could have a reboot of S8 like they did with Dallas. Instead of Pam dreaming, it would be Kate stressing out over her new role as Captain and she would have had the nightmare that was S8. She would go out of the bedroom to find that Rick had cooked her a special breakfast for her first day and presented her with that beautiful bracelet which she is seen to wear and which made her smile every time she looked at it especially when she was feeling the pressure at work. S8 in the first part would be them trying to adjust to her new role which would have lead to arguments because they never seemed to be home at the same time. Martha would intervene making them sit down and just talk it out. Next several episodes would have been Rick & Kate making up, maybe even getting a proper honeymoon and renewing their vows in front of all their friends. In the final part, it would have been Kate finding herself pregnant and the final episode could have been Kate giving birth. Sadly with how the lead actors appeared to be with each other at the end.... B. :-) Brilliant thinking and idea KB!!! -- If Only indeed!!!
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Post by latte on Aug 11, 2017 14:43:56 GMT
Why oh why was this scene left on the cutting room floor? If Only they had included it......
You ready? I’ve never been more ready. What about you? I can’t wait.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Aug 13, 2017 10:38:47 GMT
And Rob Hanning wrote the ep too!!! This was the icing on the cake for the episode Veritas. This scene should have been broadcast.
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Post by KB1L40 on Aug 15, 2017 11:59:05 GMT
Latte kill me with your gifs of July 20 why don't you! Love the emotion in that whole hangar scene which came to the outside with Rick apologising to Kate and I'm sure she says ok as she touches/strokes his cheek.
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Post by KB1L40 on Aug 15, 2017 12:02:51 GMT
If Only...Someone in authority at ABC had cared about Castle. If only they had understood why fans who were still watching loved the series. If only that someone had dictated to the actors this is what they were supposed to be portraying. Whatever their problems they needed to leave them in their trailers and do the job they were paid to do. If that task was too difficult then they were in the wrong profession as acting is about 'make believe'. If only that someone then dictated to the writers this is what you are supposed to be delivering to the fans so get on with it.
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Post by latte on Aug 16, 2017 0:07:31 GMT
Latte kill me with your gifs of July 20 why don't you! Love the emotion in that whole hangar scene which came to the outside with Rick apologising to Kate and I'm sure she says ok as she touches/strokes his cheek. B. :-)
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