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Post by kbex on Sept 12, 2017 21:51:41 GMT
This is the 2 min video that was mentioned a couple of posts back.. I think we can all watch this one. I'm shocked to see that it is dubbed into Spanish and not using subtitles. Unless this is just for the promo, I guess this is the way they avoid having the English-language version all over the internet in a couple of weeks, but I didn't think anyone dubbed things any more. Another reason why Showcase in Canada is probably waiting on the US and/or UK airings, their site says 'Coming Soon' for Absentia.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 22:11:37 GMT
I'm shocked to see that it is dubbed into Spanish and not using subtitles. Unless this is just for the promo, I guess this is the way they avoid having the English-language version all over the internet in a couple of weeks, but I didn't think anyone dubbed things any more. Another reason why Showcase in Canada is probably waiting on the US and/or UK airings, their site says 'Coming Soon' for Absentia. Portugal and Romania use subtitles, though. So these versions will be on the internet.
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Post by kbex on Sept 12, 2017 22:16:48 GMT
Another reason why Showcase in Canada is probably waiting on the US and/or UK airings, their site says 'Coming Soon' for Absentia. Portugal and Romania use subtitles, though. So these versions will be on the internet. If that's the case then I agree, those versions will be there. I still suspect Showcase is waiting on the US distributor though.
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Post by temple01uk on Sept 13, 2017 12:48:50 GMT
The clip in English....
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Post by temple01uk on Sept 13, 2017 15:26:34 GMT
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Post by temple01uk on Sept 13, 2017 17:32:00 GMT
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Post by jnorton45 on Sept 14, 2017 23:05:20 GMT
Very good Sneak Peak. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek42TX1n_wQHowever, if Sony does not get Absentia out in line with the AXN showings, this show will be all over the internet. Too good to hold.
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Post by latte on Sept 15, 2017 23:13:10 GMT
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Post by KB1L40 on Sept 19, 2017 15:41:10 GMT
JNorton - thanks for posting that sneak. I mentioned it in the non-spoiler thread saying that the way it is edited makes it look as though Emily's memories of her son and husband are what has kept her alive. Also from the way that clip is presented, it makes it look as if the man convicted is not the one that is still holding Emily prisoner.
From the little that I have seen, it doesn't look as if there will be a happy ending for anyone, no matter how it ends. If Emily proves her innocence, will she intrude on her son & ex-husband's life or will she leave to try and build a new life for herself? Will Nick be able to give up Emily again now that he has her back? Will it be proven that Emily did in fact kill and would therefore be sent to prison despite the circumstances under which the murders were committed?
For me it just seems like a really, really dark drama which will be a tough watching knowing what Stana can bring to a character under those circumstances.
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Post by quasar on Sept 20, 2017 0:25:10 GMT
JNorton - thanks for posting that sneak. I mentioned it in the non-spoiler thread saying that the way it is edited makes it look as though Emily's memories of her son and husband are what has kept her alive. Also from the way that clip is presented, it makes it look as if the man convicted is not the one that is still holding Emily prisoner. From the little that I have seen, it doesn't look as if there will be a happy ending for anyone, no matter how it ends. If Emily proves her innocence, will she intrude on her son & ex-husband's life or will she leave to try and build a new life for herself? Will Nick be able to give up Emily again now that he has her back? Will it be proven that Emily did in fact kill and would therefore be sent to prison despite the circumstances under which the murders were committed? For me it just seems like a really, really dark drama which will be a tough watching knowing what Stana can bring to a character under those circumstances. B. :-) Interesting set of questions. I, too, can't see a happily ever after story for everyone. It'll be grittier and more realistic than that. I also can't see Emily leaving completely if Nick chooses Alice in the end. She'd still want to be a part of Flynn's life (assuming he comes around from the first meeting scene). For me, Nick certainly has the most difficult decision. I keep going back to certain legal questions as a starting point. If someone is declared dead who isn't, does the declaration automatically lose its validation? Is Nick's current marriage even legal? Would the dissolution of Emily's assets via a will or probate have to be reversed? Would she still own half the house? What are her custody rights? Then there's all the emotional upheavals and their reactions to them. What if Emily coming back causes Alice to reveal an unkindness or even callousness that Nick hadn't seen before? What if Emily has changed too much for Nick to love? Agree Absentia is going to be hard to watch. I'm not expecting any humor or more than a few lighthearted moments, but I do think - hope - it'll be well-crafted and the tempo won't be unrelentingly brutal.
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Post by jnorton45 on Sept 20, 2017 0:53:24 GMT
Yeah, the legal angles of someone coming from back from the dead is daunting, but she can't be the first one. It's government. Bet there policies and procedures. Maybe there a little old guy in a room full of filing cabinets and an antique computer who specializes in this sort of thing. The FBI owes her lots of money. Social Security will go nuts. Could be an interesting source of comic relief. That would a good thing.
It will be dark and I hope relentless. Can't stand those overwritten dramas. Hope they stick to Bowman's rule. Faster, faster, faster.
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Post by quasar on Sept 20, 2017 2:26:19 GMT
Like your little old guy theory. :) Making things more complicated in the US is that the rules for both declaring a person dead without a body and revoking that declaration are different in each state. So far I haven't found a clear explanation for Massachusetts.
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Post by temple01uk on Sept 23, 2017 17:44:11 GMT
Some more PR from Portugal......
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Post by KB1L40 on Sept 25, 2017 15:01:53 GMT
Quasar - some great questions. I haven't even thought about the legal ramifications. I wonder if the writers have? :-) And indeed, who would officially have to go through with those legalities?
Love this board! Show has yet to be seen and we are already thinking ahead...
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Post by will30 on Sept 26, 2017 13:48:11 GMT
If I'm not too mistaken, early reports (from before Absentia debuted yesterday) showed both eps 1 & 2 to be in excess of 50 minutes. The two eps that played last night were 47 min and 39, respectively. Wondering what was cut and if it still hasn't shown in English speaking countries (not yet as far as I know) will we ever see the missing parts? Just curious.
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Post by temple01uk on Sept 26, 2017 14:19:45 GMT
If I'm not too mistaken, early reports (from before Absentia debuted yesterday) showed both eps 1 & 2 to be in excess of 50 minutes. The two eps that played last night were 47 min and 39, respectively. Wondering what was cut and if it still hasn't shown in English speaking countries (not yet as far as I know) will we ever see the missing parts? Just curious. I watched both episodes this morning and both were the same at 47 minutes long according to the timer on the video player anyway. I did watch live in Romania and Spain but did not time the episodes so can't comment on the times or why there should be a difference.
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Post by temple01uk on Sept 26, 2017 15:54:30 GMT
A preview of next weeks episode....looks like Flynn getting injured on the track while out with Emily.....
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Post by will30 on Sept 26, 2017 16:33:14 GMT
If I'm not too mistaken, early reports (from before Absentia debuted yesterday) showed both eps 1 & 2 to be in excess of 50 minutes. The two eps that played last night were 47 min and 39, respectively. Wondering what was cut and if it still hasn't shown in English speaking countries (not yet as far as I know) will we ever see the missing parts? Just curious. I watched both episodes this morning and both were the same at 47 minutes long according to the timer on the video player anyway. I did watch live in Romania and Spain but did not time the episodes so can't comment on the times or why there should be a difference. My only point, which I didn't make, obviously, was, there's 5-10 minutes missing from the episode, based on previous reports and comments...just curious as to what was cut and will we ever see it. I remember an ep of Castle that, when I saw what had been edited, would have made the ep better than what was released.
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Post by temple01uk on Sept 26, 2017 16:51:40 GMT
I agree, originally the episodes were billed as being longer on the European networks, traditionally we have much less commercial time on our programs but something seems to have gone on in the background to prune these timings .....as usual I guess the deleted scenes will be revealed in any DVD extra's.
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Post by latte on Sept 27, 2017 7:56:49 GMT
Well I'm up to E07. All I will say is that it has taken me a few episodes to really get into it. There is some very dark stuff-not my thing at all. But my earlier views on the acting by the support cast has not changed greatly. One character/actor who has improved is Det Tommy as he appears in more scenes. Stana is carrying the show and not just because she is the central character. She is actually carrying the high bench mark of acting compared to the others IMO. That, for all the good camera work etc is the weak chink. Still it's one hell of a ride if your a Stana Katic fan and it will probably be popular with other viewers too. If they had a better male lead this would have been very very good. But, as a Stana fan, this is her best work since her best efforts on Castle and she is the NUMBER ONE! So bravo Stana and I'm looking forward to watching the final three episodes-probably from behind the couch! A dear Castle friend shared this link which enabled me to watch the first six episodes. It may work for some here. I also posted another link in the Ep01 discussion thread. link
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Post by temple01uk on Sept 27, 2017 8:08:06 GMT
Completed the first 6 episodes now.....quite a ride and with all the twists will probably need to review these again at some stage....Stana is the stand out actor in the show as you say, her best performance to date...it's pretty dramatic viewing all the way, no laughs at all and we seem to be running out of candidates for the bad guy/woman....it will be fascinating to find out who this actually is and their motivation. Detective Tommy who we heard likes to solve cases rather than just close them may well turn out to be her 'white knight' and save her from the mounting case against her, because I'm not sure she can rely on her 'husband' to have faith in her innocence. This is as good as many European cop drama's I have seen, very Scandinavian Noir, and 10 episodes is about the right number for this case.
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Post by jnorton45 on Sept 27, 2017 12:12:26 GMT
I watched both episodes this morning and both were the same at 47 minutes long according to the timer on the video player anyway. I did watch live in Romania and Spain but did not time the episodes so can't comment on the times or why there should be a difference. My only point, which I didn't make, obviously, was, there's 5-10 minutes missing from the episode, based on previous reports and comments...just curious as to what was cut and will we ever see it. I remember an ep of Castle that, when I saw what had been edited, would have made the ep better than what was released. Thought about this awhile. There are several ways to approach reducing the time associated with each episode. You can cut complete scenes. You can shave a second or two from the front and back of each scene. You can shave at the cuts. Generally there are hundreds of cuts in an episode. It seems fairly obvious that they have shaved seconds off the front and back of many scenes. Still that won't give you enough. They have probably cut a scene or two, but also that second shot of one actor watching the action as well. What ever they did with the editing it is very tight. Makes for fast moving episodes.
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Post by latte on Sept 27, 2017 22:03:43 GMT
Was hoping for a strong performance from Patrick H, but thus far he has been very disappointing IMO. I have watched the first six episodes, so that's 60% of the show. He is in a lot of scenes and many not with Stana/Emily as he is the link between the investigation aspects of the story and of course he has a new wife. But as an actor, he is challenging to actually understand at times. He has a very good character to play, in terms of the range and complexities, but he lacks range. Same face and wrinkled brow and his voice doesn't meet the challenge of reacting well to the emotional aspects of the writing. I'm not going into specifics here, even with the spoiler tag, but the show is great but it could have risen to a truly great level with a stronger actor in the male lead. Of the other cast, so far, think that Cara Theobald has been really solid in her role. Is it Paul Freeman playing Emily's father? Whoever it is has been really good-there's emotional energy coming from him is lacking in some of the others. Angel Bonanni, who plays Det Tommy, has grown with the role as the episodes develop. First episode, he didn't impress, but he has worked his way into the scenes even though he is the very stereotypical non conforming cop-very much an opposite version of Det Slaughter! There are twists and turns and it is getting even more dark and more sinister. As I've made clear, its not a genre that appeal to me but as a fan of Stana then we follow her pathway. So far, to me, this is her best work outside of Castle. Looking forward to the last four episodes to see where it goes but I think I have a pretty good idea.
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Post by latte on Sept 27, 2017 22:13:30 GMT
Floating a theory on the odd online access to the first six episodes and Stana's odd tweet (now deleted) about getting access anyway you can etc. Could it be that SONY TV actually enabled that release so that a broader audience could get a teaser? Then linking the six weeks and not the entire season could be that the EU markets play out for the first six episodes before a US/Canada premiere? So in short, the US premier will be in November? They still, and always will, have an issue with spoilers as the EU season concludes but to most viewers that wont be an issue.
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Post by jnorton45 on Sept 27, 2017 23:21:31 GMT
Floating a theory on the odd online access to the first six episodes and Stana's odd tweet (now deleted) about getting access anyway you can etc. Could it be that SONY TV actually enabled that release so that a broader audience could get a teaser? Then linking the six weeks and not the entire season could be that the EU markets play out for the first six episodes before a US/Canada premiere? So in short, the US premier will be in November? They still, and always will, have an issue with spoilers as the EU season concludes but to most viewers that wont be an issue. Yeah, something like that. Develop more buzz with a large, multi-episode teaser. Okay. Certainly lots of enthusiasm by those who saw some of the episodes. Well, it's cheap.
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Post by quasar on Sept 28, 2017 0:45:45 GMT
Completed the first 6 episodes now.....quite a ride and with all the twists will probably need to review these again at some stage....Stana is the stand out actor in the show as you say, her best performance to date...it's pretty dramatic viewing all the way, no laughs at all and we seem to be running out of candidates for the bad guy/woman....it will be fascinating to find out who this actually is and their motivation. Detective Tommy who we heard likes to solve cases rather than just close them may well turn out to be her 'white knight' and save her from the mounting case against her, because I'm not sure she can rely on her 'husband' to have faith in her innocence. This is as good as many European cop drama's I have seen, very Scandinavian Noir, and 10 episodes is about the right number for this case. Haven't seen any of it yet and trying to stay relatively spoiler-free, but glad to read this assessment. Scandinavian Noir sounds good to me.
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Post by kbex on Sept 28, 2017 6:44:08 GMT
Was hoping for a strong performance from Patrick H, but thus far he has been very disappointing IMO. I have watched the first six episodes, so that's 60% of the show. He is in a lot of scenes and many not with Stana/Emily as he is the link between the investigation aspects of the story and of course he has a new wife. But as an actor, he is challenging to actually understand at times. He has a very good character to play, in terms of the range and complexities, but he lacks range. Same face and wrinkled brow and his voice doesn't meet the challenge of reacting well to the emotional aspects of the writing. I'm not going into specifics here, even with the spoiler tag, but the show is great but it could have risen to a truly great level with a stronger actor in the male lead. Of the other cast, so far, think that Cara Theobald has been really solid in her role. Is it Paul Freeman playing Emily's father? Whoever it is has been really good-there's emotional energy coming from him is lacking in some of the others. Angel Bonanni, who plays Det Tommy, has grown with the role as the episodes develop. First episode, he didn't impress, but he has worked his way into the scenes even though he is the very stereotypical non conforming cop-very much an opposite version of Det Slaughter! There are twists and turns and it is getting even more dark and more sinister. As I've made clear, its not a genre that appeal to me but as a fan of Stana then we follow her pathway. So far, to me, this is her best work outside of Castle. Looking forward to the last four episodes to see where it goes but I think I have a pretty good idea. I have also watched the first six episodes and I'm really enjoying it. Interesting what you said about Patrick Huesinger as Nick because I am finding him boring, I don't dislike him but he's just very humdrum. I like Angel Bonanni as Tommy, and the actor playing Emily's father is great. I really don't have a guess where it's going right now but I do have some thoughts on Harlow and I'd like to discuss it but many haven't watched yet. Curious what your thoughts are on Harlow.
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Post by latte on Sept 28, 2017 10:57:21 GMT
Was hoping for a strong performance from Patrick H, but thus far he has been very disappointing IMO. I have watched the first six episodes, so that's 60% of the show. He is in a lot of scenes and many not with Stana/Emily as he is the link between the investigation aspects of the story and of course he has a new wife. But as an actor, he is challenging to actually understand at times. He has a very good character to play, in terms of the range and complexities, but he lacks range. Same face and wrinkled brow and his voice doesn't meet the challenge of reacting well to the emotional aspects of the writing. I'm not going into specifics here, even with the spoiler tag, but the show is great but it could have risen to a truly great level with a stronger actor in the male lead. Of the other cast, so far, think that Cara Theobald has been really solid in her role. Is it Paul Freeman playing Emily's father? Whoever it is has been really good-there's emotional energy coming from him is lacking in some of the others. Angel Bonanni, who plays Det Tommy, has grown with the role as the episodes develop. First episode, he didn't impress, but he has worked his way into the scenes even though he is the very stereotypical non conforming cop-very much an opposite version of Det Slaughter! There are twists and turns and it is getting even more dark and more sinister. As I've made clear, its not a genre that appeal to me but as a fan of Stana then we follow her pathway. So far, to me, this is her best work outside of Castle. Looking forward to the last four episodes to see where it goes but I think I have a pretty good idea. I have also watched the first six episodes and I'm really enjoying it. Interesting what you said about Patrick Huesinger as Nick because I am finding him boring, I don't dislike him but he's just very humdrum. I like Angel Bonanni as Tommy, and the actor playing Emily's father is great. I really don't have a guess where it's going right now but I do have some thoughts on Harlow and I'd like to discuss it but many haven't watched yet. Curious what your thoughts are on Harlow. Even though we are in a spoiler thread, Ill keep the comments not too specific. Happy to chat over in any of the episode threads. Well, think Emily's brother is part of a much bigger and sinister group. He has his fetishes and its very dark and ugly stuff but is he a killer? Maybe he was the one with the mask-because he does like to watch? Think his medical skills are about to come in handy? As for Harlow, another player in the bigger group. As we have seen it is getting darker in the story telling, if that's possible.
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Post by latte on Sept 28, 2017 10:58:52 GMT
Floating a theory on the odd online access to the first six episodes and Stana's odd tweet (now deleted) about getting access anyway you can etc. Could it be that SONY TV actually enabled that release so that a broader audience could get a teaser? Then linking the six weeks and not the entire season could be that the EU markets play out for the first six episodes before a US/Canada premiere? So in short, the US premier will be in November? They still, and always will, have an issue with spoilers as the EU season concludes but to most viewers that wont be an issue. Yeah, something like that. Develop more buzz with a large, multi-episode teaser. Okay. Certainly lots of enthusiasm by those who saw some of the episodes. Well, it's cheap. Adding, odd coincidence too that the only episode titles we know are the first SIX. Think that's no coincidence at all.
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Post by alwaysafan on Sept 28, 2017 18:24:42 GMT
Was hoping for a strong performance from Patrick H, but thus far he has been very disappointing IMO. I have watched the first six episodes, so that's 60% of the show. He is in a lot of scenes and many not with Stana/Emily as he is the link between the investigation aspects of the story and of course he has a new wife. But as an actor, he is challenging to actually understand at times. He has a very good character to play, in terms of the range and complexities, but he lacks range. Same face and wrinkled brow and his voice doesn't meet the challenge of reacting well to the emotional aspects of the writing. I'm not going into specifics here, even with the spoiler tag, but the show is great but it could have risen to a truly great level with a stronger actor in the male lead. Of the other cast, so far, think that Cara Theobald has been really solid in her role. Is it Paul Freeman playing Emily's father? Whoever it is has been really good-there's emotional energy coming from him is lacking in some of the others. Angel Bonanni, who plays Det Tommy, has grown with the role as the episodes develop. First episode, he didn't impress, but he has worked his way into the scenes even though he is the very stereotypical non conforming cop-very much an opposite version of Det Slaughter! There are twists and turns and it is getting even more dark and more sinister. As I've made clear, its not a genre that appeal to me but as a fan of Stana then we follow her pathway. So far, to me, this is her best work outside of Castle. Looking forward to the last four episodes to see where it goes but I think I have a pretty good idea. I have also watched the first six episodes and I'm really enjoying it.  Interesting what you said about Patrick Huesinger as Nick because I am finding him boring, I don't dislike him but he's just very humdrum.  I like Angel Bonanni as Tommy, and the actor playing Emily's father is great.  I really don't have a guess where it's going right now but I do have some thoughts on Harlow and I'd like to discuss it but many haven't watched yet.  Curious what your thoughts are on Harlow.
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