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Post by quasar on Mar 30, 2019 4:12:05 GMT
Editing to remove the personal comments: Everyone can make any decisions but then we're all obligated to take the responsibility for them. I repeat, the "copies" that are being put online at this time are being put online illegally. Accessing one, whatever the excuse, is taking part in an illegal act. I agree with KitKat. Quaser, You're the best. Thank you, KitKat. I'm sorry you feel you can no longer post. I'm going to continue, as long as I'm allowed.
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Post by quasar on Mar 30, 2019 5:01:52 GMT
Meanwhile back to Casualties. IMDb lists ratings from 18 people so far with a weighted average vote of 7.2 and a median of 8. Despite the very low number, the distribution is rather suspect, with two giving it a 1 and one a 2, but no one rating it 3,4, or 5. No doubt the numbers will build gradually as more countries release it. link
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Post by temple01uk on Mar 30, 2019 12:27:43 GMT
I will continue to watch the series 'live' as I may.....I will also pay Amazon for the privilege and buy the DVD when they become available as I did with season 1 last year.
This thread has a spoiler warning so we should surely be able to post details of the episode, not just our thoughts on the episode......reader beware!.
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Post by mimie on Mar 30, 2019 13:17:30 GMT
I came here to post my opinion on the first episode because i saw it, but when I see the accusations and moral lessons by Quasar and Kitkat, it totally disables me. I think their messages should be deleted because this topic is only about absentia 2x01.
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Post by veritas on Mar 30, 2019 16:03:47 GMT
I came here to post my opinion on the first episode because i saw it, but when I see the accusations and moral lessons by Quasar and Kitkat, it totally disables me. I think their messages should be deleted because this topic is only about absentia 2x01. Mimie, please post your thoughts as we would love to hear them. You will note from the Moderator comments that any member making accusations and or moral comment here about other members are not welcome. The comments are there to show our openness where possible to all our members.
Again, please post your opinions of the episode as they are always welcome here.
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Post by goaway on Mar 30, 2019 19:17:21 GMT
I came here to post my opinion on the first episode because i saw it, but when I see the accusations and moral lessons by Quasar and Kitkat, it totally disables me. I think their messages should be deleted because this topic is only about absentia 2x01. I haven't been on this board in quite a while, but i'm familiar with Quasar's behavior on other boards, so I decided to post here anyway and choose to ignore her, I don't read her posts and don't respond to her posts ever. I came on just to discuss the episode(a) as few have seen it, and agree with Veritas that any piracy lectures should be left on the Open Thread.
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Post by latte on Mar 30, 2019 21:56:20 GMT
I came here to post my opinion on the first episode because i saw it, but when I see the accusations and moral lessons by Quasar and Kitkat, it totally disables me. I think their messages should be deleted because this topic is only about absentia 2x01. Keep posting here Mimie. Your thoughts will be appreciated by all those here who enjoy the back and forth when we share our impressions of Stana's work.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Mar 31, 2019 12:59:34 GMT
Ok. I have also seen the first ep via a very kind friend who knows I am a fan of Stana, and also of Castle. I do not have Amazon, nor any other kind of streaming, nor can I afford it. How we as fans view this series, is our business and ours alone. This is a discussion thread and we should be happy to read other members thoughts re them seeing it.
Moving on......The first ep starts with a bang -- or a few of them. Emily is still searching for her past, but she has fallen since we last saw her. She is using drugs, and drinking. She is also using Tommy for info., one of the things being he has given her is her adoption file., and she has discovered a hidden phone number on it. Flynn is in therapy, and is having personal issues. He is also calling Emily Mum, which is nice to hear. The time span appears to be 4 years as a comment was made by Nick re a major terrorist attack via chemicals., and something hasnt happened in 4 years. Alice had a miscarriage, and this as also affected Flynn.
Jack is an EMT and has his license back, but he also is being a paramedic. We learn that Alice used to be a therapist.
A man in a white van is parked outside Emilys flat at night time. Flynn shines torch at the van, and it takes off. Emily sees the van in day time near a shop, then realises the male driver is watching her, so she gives chase, but misses him.
With the number on her adoption file, she and Tommy check out the people involved, and find them in a caravan park. Last scene ends in a twist. Pennie Downie is in the last scene.
There have been lots of things to whet ones appetite, one being that the characters storylines have definately furthered. Emily is also still having flashbacks and ones we havent seen before, one being her all dirty/grimy and having a leg chained to the floor and her trying to reach a small bowl of water.
I am looking forward to seeing how this season plays out.
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Post by jnorton45 on Mar 31, 2019 16:38:38 GMT
^^^ Sounds as if you enjoyed the episode.
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Post by veritas on Mar 31, 2019 23:07:12 GMT
All the posts re: opinions on how members may or may not access Absentia have been deleted from this Thread.
Please continue to post your thoughts of the show. The moderators here are interested only in the sharing of views of episodes and matters relating to shows etc, as we have been since the Board was created. Post away folks! PEACE2ALL
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Post by latte on Apr 1, 2019 0:28:37 GMT
Thanks Syd for your thoughts and yes I too have Castle friends who kindly help me out at times. Lovely being part of a global family of fans as we are here.
There's something about this episode that didn't sit right. Perhaps it was the whiplash change up to the Emily character without any real explanation? Let's start there.
Last time we all saw Emily was the kitchen scene with Tommy. Emily appeared the most 'put together' than we had seen her in all of S1. Yes, she had a traumatic flashback and yes she acknowledged she needed some time to sort herself out. But there was still a softness to her convo with Tommy, where he was clearly showing a more than a friend interest, and she appeared to be in a better place.
'Casualties' however shows us an Emily who is living beyond the edge in more ways than one. She is a hard drug user, probably an alcoholic and has questionable risky sexual behaviours. She is anorexic thin and unlike other females who act out this level of fight to survive character, Emily has little muscle definition and is simply unhealthy thin. She uses Tommy for information on her obsession to track down her past and she pays him with sex. The blink and you miss it sexual encounter is IMO constructed to reinforce Emily is using her body for an end game and not for pleasure. Don't look at him and make it clear there are rules here that include you don't get to linger afterwards. There is none of the softness that we saw glimpses of in S1. I think the character of Tommy will be short lived.
The writing poorly constructed the time jump between seasons. Not using a small flashback to the final scene from S1 was unfortunate as it could have shown Emily's intent to have some time out to find out who she is after her trauma. Simply there was no bridge for us to walk over into the new season. But the writers decided to go with a very tired trope of a mysterious guy with a gas cylinder brutally murdering an innocent maintenance worker with the obvious ploy of contaminating an air-conditioning system. How many times have we seen that scene on our screens?
Then the continuation of the poor writing of how mental health is both treated and accommodated in a modern society was evident in the scene in the psychiatrists office with Flynn and his father and step mother. You will remember in S1 the scenes in the mental health centre that had the cliched images of patients roaming the corridors dressed in hospital style gowns? One flew over the cuckoos nest was decades ago and I commented at the time how inappropriate was this depiction of modern mental health care. So here again, the writers present a scene that simply would hopefully not be a typical family conference in today's world. I appreciate I'm nit picking here but tbh it's simply frustrating and annoying to see ignorance like this in the writing when it serves no purpose to the story. The scene should have been the four characters sitting in a casual setting facing each other-no power play of the 'expert' sitting behind a desk. I don't think at this point we knew exactly what the time jump was but reflecting back on the disclosure by Nick that it was four years made the writing of this doctors scene even poorer. Why is it that Flynn's parents are shocked to think Flynn may have been impacted by Alice's miscarriage? Why is Flynn being treated for his PTSD symptoms as though they were something new and surprising? Why wasn't his mother there for this family conference?
Moving on to the relationship between Flynn and Emily. Why was there no explanation as to why Flynn had never stayed over with Emily in four years? Did they communicate with each other in those years? Where was she that she didn't actually have him come to her place? How didn't Emily know about Flynn's PTSD and his bed wetting? Again, the writing didn't provide any context or background as we the viewer were left to wonder and try and piece it together. If Emily and Flynn hadn't been seeing each other then why did Nick call Emily in an emergency to go to his school and pick him up? Surely Nick would have more reliable people on his emergency contacts list than a drug using and dysfunctional Emily? Don't get me started on how the school children were all screaming and running in panic-what on earth was that all about? Like the mental health approaches, the school scene showed a lack of understanding of how a school community would be managing an emergency. But was there a community emergency or was it contained to the one government building?
Had read comments by others that they thought Stana was using a different voice for Emily this episode. Whilst the production quality appears to have improved overall, Emily's voice did sound different. When you get to watch the scene of Flynn and Emily sitting on the floor of the apartment listen to Emily's voice here. It sounds a different quality to Flynn's to the point I thought perhaps it was dubbed later by Stana in post production.
Good to see Jack getting his life back together but again the disclosure to Alice about a patient having a terminal illness was poor writing when considering ethics. It could have easily been Jack telling Alice that the man has a battle ahead of him without breaking patient confidentiality. I know it's nit picking but it goes to the authenticity of the story telling.
Liked the new character who played the FBI profiler-sorry don't have her name but she had a presence in all her scenes.
Tommy looks like an accident waiting to happen. He was sloppy when he approached the trailer and simply stood at the doorway with no protection vest or ID. I've seen that scene where police approach a doorway like that and knock and stand to the side with their back to the wall waiting. Tommy was an easy target for a panicked criminal.
The end scene was again Tommy working for Emily and putting his own career and safety at risk. But the twist, which I wont reveal here, will be interesting how it's unpacked. Lot of excess baggage in that story for sure!
So we have a crazy who wants to commit mass killing of law enforcement who may or may not be part of some larger conspiracy group. We have Flynn not dealing with his kidnapping and torture of four years earlier. We have Nick being the FBI guy and oblivious to the personal side of his life-nothing much has changed there! Emily, we have no clues as to where she has been in the last four years. Tommy, well he get's a friends with benefits deal but he's also suffering an addiction and its called Emily. Alice, looks unchanged and it was interesting that her profession is a counsellor which made the whole family conference scene even more odd. Good for her going back to work-thought Flynn's reaction to that news was as dense as his father-like father like son in the emotional maturity part!
Will be interesting to see if the writing gives us more on the gap between seasons. There are some big plot holes there if they don't IMO. It would appear that things are going to get worse for Emily before they get better-brace ourselves! Like to know how a substance abuser manages to have such perfect eyeliner in every scene-details that can squish the effort to show dysfunction. Signs of more money in the budget-needed and great to see.
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Post by ksyl on Apr 1, 2019 11:04:54 GMT
I recall Stana saying in an interview that the time gap is "a few months-one year". I don't remember which interview though, I've watched so many when she was in Europe
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 1, 2019 12:25:03 GMT
Thanks Syd for your thoughts and yes I too have Castle friends who kindly help me out at times. Lovely being part of a global family of fans as we are here. There's something about this episode that didn't sit right. Perhaps it was the whiplash change up to the Emily character without any real explanation? Let's start there. Last time we all saw Emily was the kitchen scene with Tommy. Emily appeared the most ' put together' than we had seen her in all of S1. Yes, she had a traumatic flashback and yes she acknowledged she needed some time to sort herself out. But there was still a softness to her convo with Tommy, where he was clearly showing a more than a friend interest, and she appeared to be in a better place. ' Casualties' however shows us an Emily who is living beyond the edge in more ways than one. She is a hard drug user, probably an alcoholic and has questionable risky sexual behaviours. She is anorexic thin and unlike other females who act out this level of fight to survive character, Emily has little muscle definition and is simply unhealthy thin. She uses Tommy for information on her obsession to track down her past and she pays him with sex. The blink and you miss it sexual encounter is IMO constructed to reinforce Emily is using her body for an end game and not for pleasure. Don't look at him and make it clear there are rules here that include you don't get to linger afterwards. There is none of the softness that we saw glimpses of in S1. I think the character of Tommy will be short lived. The writing poorly constructed the time jump between seasons. Not using a small flashback to the final scene from S1 was unfortunate as it could have shown Emily's intent to have some time out to find out who she is after her trauma. Simply there was no bridge for us to walk over into the new season. But the writers decided to go with a very tired trope of a mysterious guy with a gas cylinder brutally murdering an innocent maintenance worker with the obvious ploy of contaminating an air-conditioning system. How many times have we seen that scene on our screens? Then the continuation of the poor writing of how mental health is both treated and accommodated in a modern society was evident in the scene in the psychiatrists office with Flynn and his father and step mother. You will remember in S1 the scenes in the mental health centre that had the cliched images of patients roaming the corridors dressed in hospital style gowns? One flew over the cuckoos nest was decades ago and I commented at the time how inappropriate was this depiction of modern mental health care. So here again, the writers present a scene that simply would hopefully not be a typical family conference in today's world. I appreciate I'm nit picking here but tbh it's simply frustrating and annoying to see ignorance like this in the writing when it serves no purpose to the story. The scene should have been the four characters sitting in a casual setting facing each other-no power play of the 'expert' sitting behind a desk. I don't think at this point we knew exactly what the time jump was but reflecting back on the disclosure by Nick that it was four years made the writing of this doctors scene even poorer. Why is it that Flynn's parents are shocked to think Flynn may have been impacted by Alice's miscarriage? Why is Flynn being treated for his PTSD symptoms as though they were something new and surprising? Why wasn't his mother there for this family conference? Moving on to the relationship between Flynn and Emily. Why was there no explanation as to why Flynn had never stayed over with Emily in four years? Did they communicate with each other in those years? Where was she that she didn't actually have him come to her place? How didn't Emily know about Flynn's PTSD and his bed wetting? Again, the writing didn't provide any context or background as we the viewer were left to wonder and try and piece it together. If Emily and Flynn hadn't been seeing each other then why did Nick call Emily in an emergency to go to his school and pick him up? Surely Nick would have more reliable people on his emergency contacts list than a drug using and dysfunctional Emily? Don't get me started on how the school children were all screaming and running in panic-what on earth was that all about? Like the mental health approaches, the school scene showed a lack of understanding of how a school community would be managing an emergency. But was there a community emergency or was it contained to the one government building? Had read comments by others that they thought Stana was using a different voice for Emily this episode. Whilst the production quality appears to have improved overall, Emily's voice did sound different. When you get to watch the scene of Flynn and Emily sitting on the floor of the apartment listen to Emily's voice here. It sounds a different quality to Flynn's to the point I thought perhaps it was dubbed later by Stana in post production. Good to see Jack getting his life back together but again the disclosure to Alice about a patient having a terminal illness was poor writing when considering ethics. It could have easily been Jack telling Alice that the man has a battle ahead of him without breaking patient confidentiality. I know it's nit picking but it goes to the authenticity of the story telling. Liked the new character who played the FBI profiler-sorry don't have her name but she had a presence in all her scenes. Tommy looks like an accident waiting to happen. He was sloppy when he approached the trailer and simply stood at the doorway with no protection vest or ID. I've seen that scene where police approach a doorway like that and knock and stand to the side with their back to the wall waiting. Tommy was an easy target for a panicked criminal. The end scene was again Tommy working for Emily and putting his own career and safety at risk. But the twist, which I wont reveal here, will be interesting how it's unpacked. Lot of excess baggage in that story for sure! So we have a crazy who wants to commit mass killing of law enforcement who may or may not be part of some larger conspiracy group. We have Flynn not dealing with his kidnapping and torture of four years earlier. We have Nick being the FBI guy and oblivious to the personal side of his life-nothing much has changed there! Emily, we have no clues as to where she has been in the last four years. Tommy, well he get's a friends with benefits deal but he's also suffering an addiction and its called Emily. Alice, looks unchanged and it was interesting that her profession is a counsellor which made the whole family conference scene even more odd. Good for her going back to work-thought Flynn's reaction to that news was as dense as his father-like father like son in the emotional maturity part! Will be interesting to see if the writing gives us more on the gap between seasons. There are some big plot holes there if they don't IMO. It would appear that things are going to get worse for Emily before they get better-brace ourselves! Like to know how a substance abuser manages to have such perfect eyeliner in every scene-details that can squish the effort to show dysfunction. Signs of more money in the budget-needed and great to see. Agree that the 2nd season should have started with a ......."Previously on Absentia 1 (final episode),where we left the characters...."........, plus had a definite time span that was obvious ala .......' X Years Ago.'.....as part of the beginning of the 2nd Season, rather than at the 27 minute mark, in a conversation between Nick, the boss and ? re the chemical terrorist and etc, when he mentioned that ? happened 4 years ago. That admittedly was sloppy as we shouldnt have learnt that way, but from the beginning. I didnt particularly like the sexual encounter for the reasons you stated. I also agree that the scene at the caravan park, Tommy should have been way more prepared ala bullet proof vest just in case. He may have been off duty, but not being more prepared than he was isnt going to stop bullet/s or a knife or another dangerous weapon.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 1, 2019 12:31:55 GMT
^^^ Sounds as if you enjoyed the episode. On the whole I did, mainly as one can see how the characters have progressed/furthered, to add to the plot, albeit Emily not so good, Flynn also still being affected/affected and also suffering PTSD, and Jack now working.
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Post by ksyl on Apr 1, 2019 12:36:41 GMT
Thanks Syd for your thoughts and yes I too have Castle friends who kindly help me out at times. Lovely being part of a global family of fans as we are here. There's something about this episode that didn't sit right. Perhaps it was the whiplash change up to the Emily character without any real explanation? Let's start there. Last time we all saw Emily was the kitchen scene with Tommy. Emily appeared the most ' put together' than we had seen her in all of S1. Yes, she had a traumatic flashback and yes she acknowledged she needed some time to sort herself out. But there was still a softness to her convo with Tommy, where he was clearly showing a more than a friend interest, and she appeared to be in a better place. ' Casualties' however shows us an Emily who is living beyond the edge in more ways than one. She is a hard drug user, probably an alcoholic and has questionable risky sexual behaviours. She is anorexic thin and unlike other females who act out this level of fight to survive character, Emily has little muscle definition and is simply unhealthy thin. She uses Tommy for information on her obsession to track down her past and she pays him with sex. The blink and you miss it sexual encounter is IMO constructed to reinforce Emily is using her body for an end game and not for pleasure. Don't look at him and make it clear there are rules here that include you don't get to linger afterwards. There is none of the softness that we saw glimpses of in S1. I think the character of Tommy will be short lived. The writing poorly constructed the time jump between seasons. Not using a small flashback to the final scene from S1 was unfortunate as it could have shown Emily's intent to have some time out to find out who she is after her trauma. Simply there was no bridge for us to walk over into the new season. But the writers decided to go with a very tired trope of a mysterious guy with a gas cylinder brutally murdering an innocent maintenance worker with the obvious ploy of contaminating an air-conditioning system. How many times have we seen that scene on our screens? Then the continuation of the poor writing of how mental health is both treated and accommodated in a modern society was evident in the scene in the psychiatrists office with Flynn and his father and step mother. You will remember in S1 the scenes in the mental health centre that had the cliched images of patients roaming the corridors dressed in hospital style gowns? One flew over the cuckoos nest was decades ago and I commented at the time how inappropriate was this depiction of modern mental health care. So here again, the writers present a scene that simply would hopefully not be a typical family conference in today's world. I appreciate I'm nit picking here but tbh it's simply frustrating and annoying to see ignorance like this in the writing when it serves no purpose to the story. The scene should have been the four characters sitting in a casual setting facing each other-no power play of the 'expert' sitting behind a desk. I don't think at this point we knew exactly what the time jump was but reflecting back on the disclosure by Nick that it was four years made the writing of this doctors scene even poorer. Why is it that Flynn's parents are shocked to think Flynn may have been impacted by Alice's miscarriage? Why is Flynn being treated for his PTSD symptoms as though they were something new and surprising? Why wasn't his mother there for this family conference? Moving on to the relationship between Flynn and Emily. Why was there no explanation as to why Flynn had never stayed over with Emily in four years? Did they communicate with each other in those years? Where was she that she didn't actually have him come to her place? How didn't Emily know about Flynn's PTSD and his bed wetting? Again, the writing didn't provide any context or background as we the viewer were left to wonder and try and piece it together. If Emily and Flynn hadn't been seeing each other then why did Nick call Emily in an emergency to go to his school and pick him up? Surely Nick would have more reliable people on his emergency contacts list than a drug using and dysfunctional Emily? Don't get me started on how the school children were all screaming and running in panic-what on earth was that all about? Like the mental health approaches, the school scene showed a lack of understanding of how a school community would be managing an emergency. But was there a community emergency or was it contained to the one government building? Had read comments by others that they thought Stana was using a different voice for Emily this episode. Whilst the production quality appears to have improved overall, Emily's voice did sound different. When you get to watch the scene of Flynn and Emily sitting on the floor of the apartment listen to Emily's voice here. It sounds a different quality to Flynn's to the point I thought perhaps it was dubbed later by Stana in post production. Good to see Jack getting his life back together but again the disclosure to Alice about a patient having a terminal illness was poor writing when considering ethics. It could have easily been Jack telling Alice that the man has a battle ahead of him without breaking patient confidentiality. I know it's nit picking but it goes to the authenticity of the story telling. Liked the new character who played the FBI profiler-sorry don't have her name but she had a presence in all her scenes. Tommy looks like an accident waiting to happen. He was sloppy when he approached the trailer and simply stood at the doorway with no protection vest or ID. I've seen that scene where police approach a doorway like that and knock and stand to the side with their back to the wall waiting. Tommy was an easy target for a panicked criminal. The end scene was again Tommy working for Emily and putting his own career and safety at risk. But the twist, which I wont reveal here, will be interesting how it's unpacked. Lot of excess baggage in that story for sure! So we have a crazy who wants to commit mass killing of law enforcement who may or may not be part of some larger conspiracy group. We have Flynn not dealing with his kidnapping and torture of four years earlier. We have Nick being the FBI guy and oblivious to the personal side of his life-nothing much has changed there! Emily, we have no clues as to where she has been in the last four years. Tommy, well he get's a friends with benefits deal but he's also suffering an addiction and its called Emily. Alice, looks unchanged and it was interesting that her profession is a counsellor which made the whole family conference scene even more odd. Good for her going back to work-thought Flynn's reaction to that news was as dense as his father-like father like son in the emotional maturity part! Will be interesting to see if the writing gives us more on the gap between seasons. There are some big plot holes there if they don't IMO. It would appear that things are going to get worse for Emily before they get better-brace ourselves! Like to know how a substance abuser manages to have such perfect eyeliner in every scene-details that can squish the effort to show dysfunction. Signs of more money in the budget-needed and great to see. Agree that the 2nd season should have started with a ......."Previously on Absentia 1 (final episode),where we left the characters...."........, plus had a definite time span that was obvious ala .......' X Years Ago.'.....as part of the beginning of the 2nd Season, rather than at the 27 minute mark, in a conversation between Nick, the boss and ? re the chemical terrorist and etc, when he mentioned that ? happened 4 years ago.  That admittedly was sloppy as we shouldnt have learnt that way, but from the beginning. I didnt particularly like the sexual encounter for the reasons you stated.  I also agree that the scene at the caravan park, Tommy should have been way more prepared ala bullet proof vest just in case. He may have been off duty, but not being more prepared than he was isnt going to stop bullet/s or a knife or another dangerous weapon. Which is the exact line where we find out the time gap being "4 years"? I can't find the reference
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 1, 2019 13:47:43 GMT
Agree that the 2nd season should have started with a ......."Previously on Absentia 1 (final episode),where we left the characters...."........, plus had a definite time span that was obvious ala .......' X Years Ago.'.....as part of the beginning of the 2nd Season, rather than at the 27 minute mark, in a conversation between Nick, the boss and ? re the chemical terrorist and etc, when he mentioned that ? happened 4 years ago. That admittedly was sloppy as we shouldnt have learnt that way, but from the beginning. I didnt particularly like the sexual encounter for the reasons you stated. I also agree that the scene at the caravan park, Tommy should have been way more prepared ala bullet proof vest just in case. He may have been off duty, but not being more prepared than he was isnt going to stop bullet/s or a knife or another dangerous weapon. Which is the exact line where we find out the time gap being "4 years"? I can't find the reference Its roughly at the 27 minute mark. As soon as i heard it I wrote it down. I took it to mean that its been 4 years since last season ended. Maybe I got it wrong, but that was/is my 'takeway' from the dialogue. As soon as you hear it, pause the play. Thats what I did.
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Post by ksyl on Apr 1, 2019 14:12:40 GMT
Which is the exact line where we find out the time gap being "4 years"? I can't find the reference Its roughly at the 27 minute mark. As soon as i heard it I wrote it down. I took it to mean that its been 4 years since last season ended. Maybe I got it wrong, but that was/is my 'takeway' from the dialogue. As soon as you hear it, pause the play. Thats what I did. Thank you, Syd :-). I checked at the time mark you mentioned, but I can't find the "four" remark. Nick and Cal are speaking about checking all the HVAC contractors working on the building since its opening. Nick says: "That's forty years". The other answers that they didn't change the HVAC system during that time. I can't find any other temporaral reference
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Post by mimie on Apr 1, 2019 20:47:36 GMT
I agree with Latte on a lot of point including the writing of this first episode. in general, there are too many clichés and a lack of subtlety. The main thing is Emily's attitude and look. On this first episode, I can not find her endearing, unlike the season 1. There has been a jump in time for several years, but I have the impression that the differents characters have not really evolved or advanced during all this time.
A little disappointed by the writing of this 2nd episode and it's a shame because there seems to be more money, with better decorations and places. I hope that Emily will move in the right direction quickly in the next episodes.
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Post by latte on Apr 1, 2019 21:48:04 GMT
I agree with Latte on a lot of point including the writing of this first episode. in general, there are too many clichés and a lack of subtlety. The main thing is Emily's attitude and look. On this first episode, I can not find her endearing, unlike the season 1. There has been a jump in time for several years, but I have the impression that the differents characters have not really evolved or advanced during all this time. A little disappointed by the writing of this 2nd episode and it's a shame because there seems to be more money, with better decorations and places. I hope that Emily will move in the right direction quickly in the next episodes. "......there are too many clichés and a lack of subtlety."
Perfectly put Mimie!
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Post by NYerBornnbred on Apr 2, 2019 3:10:23 GMT
No one who liked season 1 should pay the slightest attention to me. I didn't like it, and I didn't like this episode either. SK is apparently very committed to this character, and more power to her, but I just can't get into a story where the heroine is so fundamentally unpleasant and unlikable. I just can't bring myself to care much about Emily's story.
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Post by jnorton45 on Apr 2, 2019 3:25:44 GMT
I haven’t seen any of s2, but one of the issues I had with s1 was that Stana’s part and performance overpowered many of the other characters and performances. Any thoughts?
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Post by latte on Apr 2, 2019 4:24:07 GMT
No one who liked season 1 should pay the slightest attention to me. I didn't like it, and I didn't like this episode either. SK is apparently very committed to this character, and more power to her, but I just can't get into a story where the heroine is so fundamentally unpleasant and unlikable. I just can't bring myself to care much about Emily's story. Agreed. Emily is simply more and more unlikeable. Hopefully there is a journey of redemption ahead, but I fear it will be more of the same. There are some pics of Emily looking very 'Beckett' like and not that I want her to clone that character but it would appear Emily does at least start to be looking after herself more in those pics. Too many cliches and well worn tropes. Fingers crossed things improve but I'm not seeing this as a step up project for Stana at this point.
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Post by latte on Apr 2, 2019 4:29:11 GMT
I haven’t seen any of s2, but one of the issues I had with s1 was that Stana’s part and performance overpowered many of the other characters and performances. Any thoughts? That's a good point. Emily is still the front and centre character so far. I mentioned I thought the character who plays the FBI profiler holds her scenes well. First season I was a big fan of Emily's father and her brother. Thought those two actors gave strong performances. Early days but they weren't really given much to work with in E1. Nick has either had botox, or he has learnt to frown less, which is an improvement! The issue with Emily being so front and centre is that she is really unlikeable at the moment. S1 I think we all felt her pain and her struggle to get her life back. Remember the scene when she was reunited with her dog and Flynn-it was tangible. Not getting that connection yet.
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Post by crosscastle on Apr 2, 2019 13:13:45 GMT
Welcome all the new posters-I have to wait until June 4 to see Season 2.Why could they not have world release ,I guess Amazon Prime had a cue? I will not illegally download. I always appreciate Quasar. Give her some latitude. So I will live vicariously thru your postings.
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Post by lurker on Apr 3, 2019 14:48:29 GMT
Heavy spoilery.
OK. I saw Casualties.
The attack on FEMA is the first thing in episode, and I guess that will be followed through this season. Nick and Boston FBI office are working on that with the help of the new profiler.
For me there was no radical change in Emily. Where we left her? She killed Logan, she was off the hook for other murders, her son was safe, she was at the birthday party with tons of unanswered questions, and bam! here come the flashes. She still doesn't remember everything that happened during those 6 years and who kidnapped her. She still has sudden flashes of memories, probably PTSD. Drugs (one scene) are more of a way in trying to remember at least some of the things, and alcohol is supposed to take the edge. A&A meetings suggested by Jack wouldn't bring any relief. As for clothing and hair, I'm not sure if she works at the FBI at the moment, probably is on some kind of a leave.
The second thing is she's trying to track down all the children from the orphanage with Tommy's help. And yes, they have a friends with benefits arrangement, no sleepovers.
Flynn has his own bag of problems now after his time in the tank, the experience he and his mother share. Emily is quite aware of her own problems and is questioning herself is she safe for Flynn. I think that Nick and Alice are not quite aware how deep Flynn's problem is. It's not just Emily, it's more.
The end od episode 1 is something no one could expect, Emily included. But the writers followed the line with the almost erased phone number on her file from the orphanage. Where they're going with it I have no clue. Also, how they're going to connect those two storylines, FEMA and the surprise phone number? Through attacker?
Now am eagerly waiting for ep.2.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 5, 2019 13:44:32 GMT
Last night I had two thoughts re Flynns incident......(and also goes towards the time passed); he himself said to Emily it 'wasnt normal at My Age'......When the first season ended, he had just turned 10. At that age (I think) the above is still possibly normal (granted I dont have kids, but I think it is still 'normal' for kids at 10-12 depending on their usual circumstances to have the above situation occur especially if having issues).
However, when boy reach their teenage years, it becomes less normal, unless re certain issues. Flynn looks more than 13.
2nd point re the above: Emily's voice change.; She is whispering, in a comforting, reassuring manner, trying to make him feel/believe that what happened is ok. He is also possibly/probably embarrassed. Well thats my take on it.
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Post by latte on Apr 6, 2019 1:08:22 GMT
Last night I had two thoughts re Flynns incident......(and also goes towards the time passed); he himself said to Emily it 'wasnt normal at My Age'......When the first season ended, he had just turned 10. At that age (I think) the above is still possibly normal (granted I dont have kids, but I think it is still 'normal' for kids at 10-12 depending on their usual circumstances to have the above situation occur especially if having issues). However, when boy reach their teenage years, it becomes less normal, unless re certain issues. Flynn looks more than 13. 2nd point re the above: Emily's voice change.; She is whispering, in a comforting, reassuring manner, trying to make him feel/believe that what happened is ok. He is also possibly/probably embarrassed. Well thats my take on it. Bed wetting may occur in adolescent years. As viewers we only have the actual character and the script to piece together our own assessment of what age Flynn may actually be. Physically, Flynn looks every day of 14/15 years of age. It is simply unbelievable to conclude he is only eleven. As for the voice changes, I thought the early comments from fans that Emily's voice was different from S1 were stretching it. Then watching the first two episodes it would appear that Stana is indeed using a different voice at times. Thinking back to S1 scenes between Flynn and Emily, there was a softer voice and a more believable connection. Of course all that is only my reflections on the show so far. The fact that this discussion is taking place is not a good reflection on the writing-again my assessment. Why should there be any ambiguity about the time lapse? Why not make that clear and get on with the story telling?
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 6, 2019 11:46:44 GMT
Last night I had two thoughts re Flynns incident......(and also goes towards the time passed); he himself said to Emily it 'wasnt normal at My Age'......When the first season ended, he had just turned 10. At that age (I think) the above is still possibly normal (granted I dont have kids, but I think it is still 'normal' for kids at 10-12 depending on their usual circumstances to have the above situation occur especially if having issues). However, when boy reach their teenage years, it becomes less normal, unless re certain issues. Flynn looks more than 13. 2nd point re the above: Emily's voice change.; She is whispering, in a comforting, reassuring manner, trying to make him feel/believe that what happened is ok. He is also possibly/probably embarrassed. Well thats my take on it. Bed wetting may occur in adolescent years. As viewers we only have the actual character and the script to piece together our own assessment of what age Flynn may actually be. Physically, Flynn looks every day of 14/15 years of age. It is simply unbelievable to conclude he is only eleven. As for the voice changes, I thought the early comments from fans that Emily's voice was different from S1 were stretching it. Then watching the first two episodes it would appear that Stana is indeed using a different voice at times. Thinking back to S1 scenes between Flynn and Emily, there was a softer voice and a more believable connection. Of course all that is only my reflections on the show so far. The fact that this discussion is taking place is not a good reflection on the writing-again my assessment. Why should there be any ambiguity about the time lapse? Why not make that clear and get on with the story telling? My perception of Flynn in Absentia 2, is that he is 13-15. All I was getting at was that Flynn himself said 'at my age', ie that he thinks/believes that he's too old to wet the bed still. Of course Flynn looks 14-15. I was also saying that kids dont normally wet the bed beyond a certain age, perhaps 8-10-12. I totally agree that the time jump should have been more obvious, and stated at the very beginning of the first ep of Season 2.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 6, 2019 13:00:03 GMT
I hope this is correct.......http://cartermatt/com/358977/absentia-season-2-episode-1-review-who-is-valerie-chandris/
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Apr 6, 2019 13:08:41 GMT
Ooops...forgot the 's'.......this is what it states if one searches for cartermatt absentia 2 review......
https://cartermatt/com/358977/absentia-season-2-episode-1-review-who-is-valerie-chandris/
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