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Post by latte on Feb 17, 2018 9:59:42 GMT
A bit surprising. Surprised that Fillion, as "star," would take any sort of backseat to anyone in the cast. On the other hands, maybe he has no choice because 1) the role is less demanding timewise or 2) he's not up to it physically or 3) it's all he can get. I wonder how long Nathan will go just being a banana in the bunch? Experience tells us that he will not let anyone else outshine him for long. I don't doubt that ABC needs a new hit, but even a straight to series PR statement can be drastically wrong if ratings don't come through. Not surprising at all. Allowing some no-name actors to actually develop some star-power is exactly what he does. He did it on Firefly, he did it on Castle, and he will do it again on The Rookie. The good news with the Rookie is that being EP, he is now able to keep the craziness BTS that hurt Castle from happening again. Just as long as those 'no-name actors' don't get more fan attention than him, all will be well.
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Post by temple01uk on Feb 17, 2018 17:43:59 GMT
Haha....sorry just chuckling over here....
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Feb 19, 2018 14:10:02 GMT
Interesting dialogue in Castle That 70's Show......Rick in 70's mode, calling Kate a 'rookie' because 70's man thinks she is......and 70's man thinks Rick is the Captain......and that he's showing Kate 'the ropes'...... 2IC at the time, David Amman wrote the ep. Could that line be the forerunner to the idea of The Rookie about real rookie cop? Just a thought. Especially in that proposed shows take a while to get off the ground ie submitting idea, writing ep, and so forth.
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Post by quasar on Feb 19, 2018 21:46:59 GMT
Veritas, my posts and others probably belong in the Open Thread. Sorry.
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Post by veritas on Feb 20, 2018 1:31:45 GMT
Veritas, my posts and others probably belong in the Open Thread. Sorry. Apology both appreciated and accepted.
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Post by veritas on Feb 20, 2018 1:36:02 GMT
Consistent with the previous warning on posts here, posts have been moved that are discussing matters unrelated to this Thread and that are more inflammatory in their accusations than is permitted here.
You want to let off steam and vent about things then please use the OPEN THREAD. But keep in mind, even that Thread has a framework of expectation in how we interact.
Do better people please.
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Post by KB1L40 on Feb 20, 2018 15:45:24 GMT
Ok technically challenged is curious. I went onto Nathan's twitter account and found nothing from him about The Rookie. Is it way too early to expect some kind of excitement? I mean I expected him to say that the outline for the series is done, he has received the scripts for the first few episodes, that he's looking forward to working with the actors so far cast, and also being back at ABC working with Hawley. Maybe even joking that his vacation time is almost over, but nothing. You guys that know about this kinda stuff, is that the usual..?
Like I said, just curious.
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Post by latte on Feb 21, 2018 0:54:19 GMT
Ok technically challenged is curious. I went onto Nathan's twitter account and found nothing from him about The Rookie. Is it way too early to expect some kind of excitement? I mean I expected him to say that the outline for the series is done, he has received the scripts for the first few episodes, that he's looking forward to working with the actors so far cast, and also being back at ABC working with Hawley. Maybe even joking that his vacation time is almost over, but nothing. You guys that know about this kinda stuff, is that the usual..? Like I said, just curious. B :-) That is indeed curious. Wonder why he has chosen to do that? Isn't he travelling to the UK soon to present to their buyers there? Would have thought N would be using his online followers to build some momentum for his show. As for you being 'technically challenged'! Come on, you're here on a SM Discussion board posting liking a pro!
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Post by KB1L40 on Feb 21, 2018 13:42:34 GMT
Latte - your gifs kill me! But what a way to go! And great for putting a smile on my face. As much as I have come to appreciate the Minions, Snoopy Dog is still the one!
As for posting like a pro, not even close to what you and the others achieve around here, but thank you for the encouragement. See, that's what I love about this board, everyone welcome.
Sorry for going off topic Latte...
So, interesting that Nathan hasn't posted anything yet on the Rookie? Or perhaps because I don't have a twitter account, I've not been able to see the posts? Sometimes I get a sense of only getting either the question or just the answer.
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Post by latte on Feb 22, 2018 10:12:38 GMT
Latte - your gifs kill me! But what a way to go! And great for putting a smile on my face. As much as I have come to appreciate the Minions, Snoopy Dog is still the one! As for posting like a pro, not even close to what you and the others achieve around here, but thank you for the encouragement. See, that's what I love about this board, everyone welcome. Sorry for going off topic Latte... So, interesting that Nathan hasn't posted anything yet on the Rookie? Or perhaps because I don't have a twitter account, I've not been able to see the posts? Sometimes I get a sense of only getting either the question or just the answer. B :-)
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Post by latte on Feb 23, 2018 4:56:30 GMT
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Post by quasar on Feb 23, 2018 5:17:25 GMT
I posted this in the Open thread but perhaps it belongs here. Has anyone seen the Deadline article on NF and The Rookie? I feel like asking him "So what was Castle? Chopped liver?" in my best Long Island accent.
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Post by KB1L40 on Feb 24, 2018 23:44:53 GMT
Snoopy Dog - yay!!
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Post by KB1L40 on Feb 26, 2018 11:25:23 GMT
Quasar - thanks for the Deadline article. As always apart from the article I also read the comments and as usual it made for interesting reading, at least for me. Like a broken record I will say again that anyone who tells fans to stop posting negative comments about Nathan when it comes to Castle, for me, fails to understand just how passionate we were about the series and how it ended.
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Post by wrigleycity on Feb 26, 2018 14:25:27 GMT
Quasar - thanks for the Deadline article. As always apart from the article I also read the comments and as usual it made for interesting reading, at least for me. Like a broken record I will say again that anyone who tells fans to stop posting negative comments about Nathan when it comes to Castle, for me, fails to understand just how passionate we were about the series and how it ended. B :-) People are never going to questions your negative passion, but we are question where it should be directed. I have posted this before....you can blame Nathan for all things Castle, which way too many people do, but without with Nathan, you would have never heard of Stana Katic or Kate Beckett.
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Post by quasar on Feb 26, 2018 17:25:50 GMT
Quasar - thanks for the Deadline article. As always apart from the article I also read the comments and as usual it made for interesting reading, at least for me. Like a broken record I will say again that anyone who tells fans to stop posting negative comments about Nathan when it comes to Castle, for me, fails to understand just how passionate we were about the series and how it ended. B :-) People are never going to questions your negative passion, but we are question where it should be directed. I have posted this before....you can blame Nathan for all things Castle, which way too many people do, but without with Nathan, you would have never heard of Stana Katic or Kate Beckett. Excuse me. I believe most Castle fans, including those who ended up Stana fans or Nathan fans, had positive passion for the show for 4-5 seasons, some for longer. For many of us, it was because our passion was so positive that the way it ended and why created feelings that became negatively directed toward the persons we have reasoned are to blame. I would also argue that Nathan is among those persons and may very well be at the forefront of them. What's true is that without Castle, the series, we might never have heard of Stana, but without Nathan? No. There are any number of actors who could have played Rick Castle as well as Nathan did in the early years and would have continued to play him well in the later seasons when Nathan faltered. IMO, however, Stana defined Kate Beckett. She owned that role. Could other actresses have played it? Yes, but Kate wouldn't have been the same.
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Post by latte on Mar 3, 2018 10:11:03 GMT
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Post by NYerBornnbred on Mar 3, 2018 17:11:12 GMT
I don’t take these kinds of reports at face value, but if it is actually true that he thinks a famously-failed show is the template for a success, it only shows how much delusion is the rule in Hollywood, not the exception. Of course more than a decade of being fawned over by geeky (former) teenagers for that failure could do that.
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Post by KB1L40 on Mar 3, 2018 20:47:01 GMT
Latte - thanks for posting that opinion of Nathan's new series. Ouch indeed! I just wonder how much notice will be taken that yet again, people are not liking the idea that someone of Nolan's age will be with someone young enough to be his daughter. Maybe it would have been a better idea if Lucy had indeed been his daughter and that the reason he became a rookie was to keep an eye on her when she joined the police force.
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Post by quasar on Mar 3, 2018 21:46:13 GMT
Latte - thanks for posting that opinion of Nathan's new series. Ouch indeed! I just wonder how much notice will be taken that yet again, people are not liking the idea that someone of Nolan's age will be with someone young enough to be his daughter. Maybe it would have been a better idea if Lucy had indeed been his daughter and that the reason he became a rookie was to keep an eye on her when she joined the police force. B :-) It seems so odd to go with this story arc in light of what's happening in HW (and elsewhere) these days so I'm wondering if they have something up their collective sleeve. Given Nolan and this younger woman are already together on their first day as rookies, I assume they got involved during their training at the Police Academy. Nolan is supposedly newly divorced at the time he enters the Academy. Typically relationships with other trainees are not allowed so they've likely been keeping this liaison secret for several months. Also not typically allowed in police departments are relationships within precincts. So my thought is that they are substituting the traditional WTWT get together with WTWT get caught and play it all for laughs with lots of slapstick time together and close escapes.
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Post by sydauscaskettfan2412 on Mar 4, 2018 12:09:43 GMT
Re the above report on The Rookie......I was shocked/gobsmacked when I first read it couple of days ago.....I think he is definitely deluded re his talent and comedic appeal. I hope he is not thinking or comparing the fly show with Star Trek and other related shows, including Star Wars movies. Im not into sci-fi whatsoever, but to me the latter two are a much better calibre of show.
As for the term 'magnum opus'.......yeah, right. (Not).
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Post by opalruby99 on Mar 4, 2018 19:01:06 GMT
Latte - thanks for posting that opinion of Nathan's new series. Ouch indeed! I just wonder how much notice will be taken that yet again, people are not liking the idea that someone of Nolan's age will be with someone young enough to be his daughter. Maybe it would have been a better idea if Lucy had indeed been his daughter and that the reason he became a rookie was to keep an eye on her when she joined the police force. B :-) It seems so odd to go with this story arc in light of what's happening in HW (and elsewhere) these days so I'm wondering if they have something up their collective sleeve. Given Nolan and this younger woman are already together on their first day as rookies, I assume they got involved during their training at the Police Academy. Nolan is supposedly newly divorced at the time he enters the Academy. Typically relationships with other trainees are not allowed so they've likely been keeping this liaison secret for several months. Also not typically allowed in police departments are relationships within precincts. So my thought is that they are substituting the traditional WTWT get together with WTWT get caught and play it all for laughs with lots of slapstick time together and close escapes. Since I know that Nathan didn't want Caskett to get together the WTWT won't work for me again. The series doesn't appeal to me so I'm not sure if I'll watch.
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Post by KB1L40 on Mar 5, 2018 10:56:26 GMT
Quasar - thanks for the additional info on The Rookie and the rules regarding relationships within the police. Beckett kinda mentioned that as the reason why they couldn't let it be known that she was dating Rick. As for "something up their collective sleeve" unless they have the writers as Castle did in their brilliant first 4 seasons, we are talking Hawley at this point.... ;-) B :-)
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Post by wrigleycity on Mar 6, 2018 20:32:31 GMT
So this thread was moved to CASTLE ALUMNI PROJECTS, and Absentia get's its own bracket?
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Post by ct2009a on Mar 6, 2018 22:00:58 GMT
So this thread was moved to CASTLE ALUMNI PROJECTS, and Absentia get's its own bracket? It's written in the first page of this board: "Classic Castle" and Absentia. It's not written "Classic Castle" and The Rookie.
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Post by veritas on Mar 7, 2018 4:48:37 GMT
So this thread was moved to CASTLE ALUMNI PROJECTS, and Absentia get's its own bracket? Did you miss the call for feedback in the SHOUTBOX as to how to manage the increase in the ex Castle people developing projects? As a relatively new member, perhaps you are not aware of both the history of this space and the manner in which we Administer it? We always attempt to get feedback and welcome suggestions for making things better.
Simple answer to the reasoning for ABSENTIA having it's own Thread is that it is a show in post production. It has gone from a concept and casting to actually being aired internationally. When it was placed in its own thread, there were no other similar Castle Alumni projects to that stage of development-and there still isn't. A decision was also made to incorporate ABSENTIA into the Board title due to member interest in the project. As Take Two has started filming, perhaps interest and news will increase? The Rookie has had some casting and storyline news but not much else at this point.
We attempt to both accomodate members interests and be as neutral as possible. Therefore, the Moderators discussed how we could accomodate the two latest projects on the Board. This is what we came up with for the present. Absentia is looking to a season two, where the other two projects have yet to complete a season or even an episode at this junction.
You are of course welcome to create and maintain your own Board if you are not in agreement with the workings of this one.
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Post by latte on Mar 7, 2018 5:51:02 GMT
So this thread was moved to CASTLE ALUMNI PROJECTS, and Absentia get's its own bracket? Would you have preferred The ROOKIE stay in the Sundae Thread and TAKE TWO be a stand alone thread? Think the Board has evolved and met the challenges of post Castle time well actually.
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Post by wrigleycity on Mar 7, 2018 16:15:12 GMT
So this thread was moved to CASTLE ALUMNI PROJECTS, and Absentia get's its own bracket? Did you miss the call for feedback in the SHOUTBOX as to how to manage the increase in the ex Castle people developing projects? As a relatively new member, perhaps you are not aware of both the history of this space and the manner in which we Administer it? We always attempt to get feedback and welcome suggestions for making things better.
Simple answer to the reasoning for ABSENTIA having it's own Thread is that it is a show in post production. It has gone from a concept and casting to actually being aired internationally. When it was placed in its own thread, there were no other similar Castle Alumni projects to that stage of development-and there still isn't. A decision was also made to incorporate ABSENTIA into the Board title due to member interest in the project. As Take Two has started filming, perhaps interest and news will increase? The Rookie has had some casting and storyline news but not much else at this point.
We attempt to both accomodate members interests and be as neutral as possible. Therefore, the Moderators discussed how we could accomodate the two latest projects on the Board. This is what we came up with for the present. Absentia is looking to a season two, where the other two projects have yet to complete a season or even an episode at this junction.
You are of course welcome to create and maintain your own Board if you are not in agreement with the workings of this one.
I am sorry, I am new to this board, and I most likely missed it. I, as I am sure all of us, appreciate the time and effort it takes to manage this board. Thank you again for explaining you reasoning for how " The Rookie"'s thread was managed. Your decision makes complete sense. It's just as someone who is new, it's pretty clear that there is a very strong, and un-founded anti-Nathan sentiment here. Thanks again for all of your work.
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Post by veritas on Mar 7, 2018 21:49:11 GMT
Did you miss the call for feedback in the SHOUTBOX as to how to manage the increase in the ex Castle people developing projects? As a relatively new member, perhaps you are not aware of both the history of this space and the manner in which we Administer it? We always attempt to get feedback and welcome suggestions for making things better.
Simple answer to the reasoning for ABSENTIA having it's own Thread is that it is a show in post production. It has gone from a concept and casting to actually being aired internationally. When it was placed in its own thread, there were no other similar Castle Alumni projects to that stage of development-and there still isn't. A decision was also made to incorporate ABSENTIA into the Board title due to member interest in the project. As Take Two has started filming, perhaps interest and news will increase? The Rookie has had some casting and storyline news but not much else at this point.
We attempt to both accomodate members interests and be as neutral as possible. Therefore, the Moderators discussed how we could accomodate the two latest projects on the Board. This is what we came up with for the present. Absentia is looking to a season two, where the other two projects have yet to complete a season or even an episode at this junction.
You are of course welcome to create and maintain your own Board if you are not in agreement with the workings of this one. I am sorry, I am new to this board, and I most likely missed it. I, as I am sure all of us, appreciate the time and effort it takes to manage this board. Thank you again for explaining you reasoning for how " The Rookie"'s thread was managed. Your decision makes complete sense. It's just as someone who is new, it's pretty clear that there is a very strong, and un-founded anti-Nathan sentiment here. Thanks again for all of your work. What is actually clear is your incapacity to accept that others can form a different view to your own, and that you in turn can accept their right to that view. Something you may relate to is how people choose an allegiance to a baseball team. They have their favourite players and they also have those who cause them frustration as fans. Despite their passionate views on players, coaches or tactics, they still love their team. Castle is 'our' team. We didn't all like the same 'players' or the coaching moves. Some found fault where others saw nothing wrong. But we still loved the 'team'.
For reasons unknown, you choose to play the 'man' rather than the ball here. You have been personally offensive and been censured by a Moderator. Your opinion and or defence of an actor is not the issue. You have every right to be a passionate supporter of a character or actor or anyone at all. It is rather that you choose to question the right of others here, to actually have a contrary view to your own. State your view, don't make it personal and present supporting evidence, if you have it, to strengthen your point.
The members here are a pretty resilient group who can certainly engage in diverse views, as we have many times. But we do not go at the person making the point. If we do, then the Moderators will step in. But, what we enjoy here is that we usually self moderate because as humans, most of us can sense if we went too far and crossed the line of respect. So consider this conversation as your 'second strike'. Play the ball and not the 'man' and we can all consider your perspective on things.
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Post by ct2009a on Mar 7, 2018 22:48:13 GMT
Well said, Veritas!
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