quasar
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Post by quasar on Mar 8, 2018 1:43:53 GMT
My two cents -- I've been known to - ahem - try the patience of the moderators, but they have always been fair. Thumbs up and many thanks to them for doing a fine job!
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Post by veritas on Mar 8, 2018 2:11:11 GMT
My two cents -- I've been known to - ahem - try the patience of the moderators, but they have always been fair. Thumbs up and many thanks to them for doing a fine job!
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Post by wrigleycity on Mar 8, 2018 13:40:29 GMT
I am sorry, I am new to this board, and I most likely missed it. I, as I am sure all of us, appreciate the time and effort it takes to manage this board. Thank you again for explaining you reasoning for how " The Rookie"'s thread was managed. Your decision makes complete sense. It's just as someone who is new, it's pretty clear that there is a very strong, and un-founded anti-Nathan sentiment here. Thanks again for all of your work. What is actually clear is your incapacity to accept that others can form a different view to your own, and that you in turn can accept their right to that view. Something you may relate to is how people choose an allegiance to a baseball team. They have their favourite players and they also have those who cause them frustration as fans. Despite their passionate views on players, coaches or tactics, they still love their team. Castle is 'our' team. We didn't all like the same 'players' or the coaching moves. Some found fault where others saw nothing wrong. But we still loved the 'team'.
For reasons unknown, you choose to play the 'man' rather than the ball here. You have been personally offensive and been censured by a Moderator. Your opinion and or defence of an actor is not the issue. You have every right to be a passionate supporter of a character or actor or anyone at all. It is rather that you choose to question the right of others here, to actually have a contrary view to your own. State your view, don't make it personal and present supporting evidence, if you have it, to strengthen your point.
The members here are a pretty resilient group who can certainly engage in diverse views, as we have many times. But we do not go at the person making the point. If we do, then the Moderators will step in. But, what we enjoy here is that we usually self moderate because as humans, most of us can sense if we went too far and crossed the line of respect. So consider this conversation as your 'second strike'. Play the ball and not the 'man' and we can all consider your perspective on things.
Thanks Veritas for the follow-up. Can we disagree with one another and still respect one another? That is what I have tried to do here. If that has not come across, then I apologize for my poor communication. I came to this board because I am fan of Castle, and Nathan Fillion's acting resume. You highlighted my earlier quote...""....it's pretty clear that there is a very strong, and un-founded anti-Nathan sentiment here." Why would you do that? That is not an offensive statement; it is my observation. I don't see a lot of people here supporting Nathan. Do you support Nathan? So, with deep respect to all those who counter my view, that is my aim. Nathan Fillion does not need me to defend him, but am going to here. Someone has too. If you have an issue with that, then ban me and change the name of this website. Have a good morning all !
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Post by NYerBornnbred on Mar 8, 2018 19:01:01 GMT
If I may, the definition of the word "unfounded" is "having no foundation or basis in fact." Calling someone's views on anything "unfounded" is pretty much the opposite of being respectful, particularly after various people have listed quite a few facts that are the reasons for their feelings. Perhaps this is the essence of what message board civility is all about? With all due respect, of course.
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Post by veritas on Mar 9, 2018 4:37:46 GMT
What is actually clear is your incapacity to accept that others can form a different view to your own, and that you in turn can accept their right to that view. Something you may relate to is how people choose an allegiance to a baseball team. They have their favourite players and they also have those who cause them frustration as fans. Despite their passionate views on players, coaches or tactics, they still love their team. Castle is 'our' team. We didn't all like the same 'players' or the coaching moves. Some found fault where others saw nothing wrong. But we still loved the 'team'.
For reasons unknown, you choose to play the 'man' rather than the ball here. You have been personally offensive and been censured by a Moderator. Your opinion and or defence of an actor is not the issue. You have every right to be a passionate supporter of a character or actor or anyone at all. It is rather that you choose to question the right of others here, to actually have a contrary view to your own. State your view, don't make it personal and present supporting evidence, if you have it, to strengthen your point.
The members here are a pretty resilient group who can certainly engage in diverse views, as we have many times. But we do not go at the person making the point. If we do, then the Moderators will step in. But, what we enjoy here is that we usually self moderate because as humans, most of us can sense if we went too far and crossed the line of respect. So consider this conversation as your 'second strike'. Play the ball and not the 'man' and we can all consider your perspective on things.
Thanks Veritas for the follow-up. Can we disagree with one another and still respect one another? That is what I have tried to do here. If that has not come across, then I apologize for my poor communication. I came to this board because I am fan of Castle, and Nathan Fillion's acting resume. You highlighted my earlier quote...""....it's pretty clear that there is a very strong, and un-founded anti-Nathan sentiment here." Why would you do that? That is not an offensive statement; it is my observation. I don't see a lot of people here supporting Nathan. Do you support Nathan? So, with deep respect to all those who counter my view, that is my aim. Nathan Fillion does not need me to defend him, but am going to here. Someone has too. If you have an issue with that, then ban me and change the name of this website. Have a good morning all ! No, that is not what you have been doing here. You have been warned but continue with the same behaviour.
It was adjudicated as being offensive/disrespectful in tone. The Moderators, and not yourself, will make that assessment.
Relevance? Zero.
State facts, supported by evidence, without resorting to personal or unsubstantiated allegations.
We are actually satisfied with the website and its name at this point. Please create your own space if this one is not to your liking.
The point has been made clear that your support of any actor is not the issue at hand here. You appear to believe that conditional apologies are acceptable? If you continue to post where you attack the person and or make unsubstantiated claims towards the cast, you will be banned. Consider this a final warning. The Moderators have made their thoughts more than clear to you and have been more than patient. If you do not wish to comply then we will enforce the rules as they apply to members whose posts are outside the framework here. Accept the Moderators ruling or move on. Thank you.
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Post by KB1L40 on Mar 9, 2018 16:08:14 GMT
I apologise in advance if this adds "fuel to the fire" but Veritas I just wanted to say that I don't see how you could have made things any clearer as to what was not acceptable in way in which wrigleycity has been interacting with everyone here. As to changing the name of the website, why? To me it states what someone can expect when visiting here, all things relating to Castle (I would say prior to S6 for me) and at present, Stana's follow up series.
Thank You.
B :-)
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Post by will30 on Mar 9, 2018 17:20:37 GMT
I apologise in advance if this adds "fuel to the fire" but Veritas I just wanted to say that I don't see how you could have made things any clearer as to what was not acceptable in way in which wrigleycity has been interacting with everyone here. As to changing the name of the website, why? To me it states what someone can expect when visiting here, all things relating to Castle (I would say prior to S6 for me) and at present, Stana's follow up series.
Thank You.
B :-) Let me add my thanks for what you've said and done here.
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quasar
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Post by quasar on Mar 9, 2018 21:42:11 GMT
My two cents -- I've been known to - ahem - try the patience of the moderators, but they have always been fair. Thumbs up and many thanks to them for doing a fine job! You're welcome. Glad I gave you a laugh.
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Post by latte on Mar 12, 2018 8:52:15 GMT
looks like filming has started? BTS with fan.
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Post by wrigleycity on Mar 13, 2018 14:35:45 GMT
looks like filming has started? BTS with fan. Thanks for the post. It's good to see the King back in his rightful place.
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Post by jnorton45 on Mar 13, 2018 16:19:20 GMT
Difficult to tell for sure, but look as if Nathan has lost some weight. All for the good.
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Post by latte on Mar 14, 2018 9:21:36 GMT
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Post by latte on Mar 14, 2018 9:22:26 GMT
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Post by latte on Mar 14, 2018 9:23:02 GMT
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Post by latte on Mar 14, 2018 9:25:23 GMT
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Post by latte on Mar 14, 2018 9:27:34 GMT
Eric Winter and Nathan Fillion
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Post by latte on Mar 15, 2018 9:54:36 GMT
looks like filming has started? BTS with fan. Thanks for the post. It's good to see the King back in his rightful place. No problems-have always tried to post some info on Nathan for those who may be interested. But I'll leave the 'King' thing for you-not on that wavelength with you this time.
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Post by temple01uk on Mar 15, 2018 12:05:23 GMT
Michelle, his assistant ( or whatever she is ) is EP on this show, her first outing in that role.
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Post by wrigleycity on Mar 15, 2018 17:59:48 GMT
Thanks for the post. It's good to see the King back in his rightful place. No problems-have always tried to post some info on Nathan for those who may be interested. But I'll leave the 'King' thing for you-not on that wavelength with you this time. Yeah, would love to know where you get the pics. With the King back in his Castle, I am sure no one is happier than ABC. Apparently ABC is putting him into 2 eps of "American Housewife".
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Post by kbex on Mar 15, 2018 20:40:03 GMT
No problems-have always tried to post some info on Nathan for those who may be interested. But I'll leave the 'King' thing for you-not on that wavelength with you this time. Yeah, would love to know where you get the pics. With the King back in his Castle, I am sure no one is happier than ABC. Apparently ABC is putting him into 2 eps of "American Housewife". ABC likes trying to keep actors from their successfull shows if they can, don’t blame them.
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Post by latte on Mar 15, 2018 21:28:03 GMT
No problems-have always tried to post some info on Nathan for those who may be interested. But I'll leave the 'King' thing for you-not on that wavelength with you this time. Yeah, would love to know where you get the pics. With the King back in his Castle, I am sure no one is happier than ABC. Apparently ABC is putting him into 2 eps of "American Housewife". Google is my friend!
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Post by latte on Mar 15, 2018 21:28:50 GMT
Michelle, his assistant ( or whatever she is ) is EP on this show, her first outing in that role. Isn't she now his Manager?
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Post by latte on Mar 15, 2018 21:30:24 GMT
Yeah, would love to know where you get the pics. With the King back in his Castle, I am sure no one is happier than ABC. Apparently ABC is putting him into 2 eps of "American Housewife". ABC likes trying to keep actors from their successfull shows if they can, don’t blame them. I'm not aware of any other Castle cast member getting work specifically with the ABC. Have I missed someone?
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Post by kbex on Mar 15, 2018 21:45:14 GMT
ABC likes trying to keep actors from their successfull shows if they can, don’t blame them. I'm not aware of any other Castle cast member getting work specifically with the ABC. Have I missed someone? I was talking about how ABC likes to try and keep actors from their successfull shows, so Nathan working for them again isn’t surprising. I wasn’t talking about other Castle actors, I was talking about actors like Nathan who stay with a network or come back to a network at some point.
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Post by latte on Mar 16, 2018 0:33:07 GMT
I'm not aware of any other Castle cast member getting work specifically with the ABC. Have I missed someone? I was talking about how ABC likes to try and keep actors from their successfull shows, so Nathan working for them again isn’t surprising. I wasn’t talking about other Castle actors, I was talking about actors like Nathan who stay with a network or come back to a network at some point. Think the only reason Nathan has worked so much with the ABC is due to the contract he has had with them over the years. What is interesting is that no other cast from Castle have been given the same contract options it would appear? Didn't the male lead from Bones go straight into a new show at the end of that series?
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Post by NYerBornnbred on Mar 16, 2018 1:42:37 GMT
I was talking about how ABC likes to try and keep actors from their successfull shows, so Nathan working for them again isn’t surprising. I wasn’t talking about other Castle actors, I was talking about actors like Nathan who stay with a network or come back to a network at some point. Think the only reason Nathan has worked so much with the ABC is due to the contract he has had with them over the years. What is interesting is that no other cast from Castle have been given the same contract options it would appear? Didn't the male lead from Bones go straight into a new show at the end of that series? Bones was on Fox, while SEAL Team is on CBS, so I don't see any connection between them. On the other hand, it seems pretty clear that ABC Studios is a fan of Fillion.
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Post by prd4castle on Mar 16, 2018 2:06:48 GMT
Think the only reason Nathan has worked so much with the ABC is due to the contract he has had with them over the years. What is interesting is that no other cast from Castle have been given the same contract options it would appear? Didn't the male lead from Bones go straight into a new show at the end of that series? Bones was on Fox, while SEAL Team is on CBS, so I don't see any connection between them. On the other hand, it seems pretty clear that ABC Studios is a fan of Fillion.
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Post by prd4castle on Mar 16, 2018 2:07:32 GMT
Bones was on Fox, while SEAL Team is on CBS, so I don't see any connection between them. On the other hand, it seems pretty clear that ABC Studios is a fan of Fillion. So am I.
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Post by quasar on Mar 16, 2018 4:46:52 GMT
No problems-have always tried to post some info on Nathan for those who may be interested. But I'll leave the 'King' thing for you-not on that wavelength with you this time. Yeah, would love to know where you get the pics. With the King back in his Castle, I am sure no one is happier than ABC. Apparently ABC is putting him into 2 eps of "American Housewife". Ironic that you wrote "King back in his Castle." To me Nathan looks too much like himself playing Rick in a policeman's costume in these photos. He looks better than I thought he would, but there's nothing in the photos that suggest he's taken on a new role, a new character.
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Post by kbex on Mar 16, 2018 4:49:12 GMT
I was talking about how ABC likes to try and keep actors from their successfull shows, so Nathan working for them again isn’t surprising. I wasn’t talking about other Castle actors, I was talking about actors like Nathan who stay with a network or come back to a network at some point. Think the only reason Nathan has worked so much with the ABC is due to the contract he has had with them over the years. What is interesting is that no other cast from Castle have been given the same contract options it would appear? Didn't the male lead from Bones go straight into a new show at the end of that series? My comment stems from the fact I followed the ABC show LOST and watched an interview with Evangeline Lilly at the time the show was winding down, and she commented about ABC wanting to work with her and others in the cast on new projects after LOST finished. Lilly, her co-lead Mathew Fox, and Josh Holloway have never chosen to work for ABC again, but at least 7 other members of the cast have on different shows. My point is I don’t think this is the only show ABC has done this with but unless an actor starts working for them again we don’t know who was asked or who was interested. With Castle being a smaller cast and the show being the Castle and Beckett show, I’m not surprised it appears that ABC was mostly interested in Nathan and according to the Deadline article, Stana. I’ll also add I’m not surprised Stana isn’t working with ABC.
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